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If this rule appears on every page then use the Master Page and insert the Line here - you don't have to anchor it, just draw it where it needs to appear.
I converted over 30 publications, from 300 pages to 3200 pages from Ventura to InDesign.
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That's a lot of pages!
The rule only goes in when notes are appearing on the facing page from their reference. The verical position can change depending on whether there are notes "already" on that page from the language on that page. Man is THAT confusing!
Suffice to say that the vertical position of the rule is relative to the first note from a facing page, the position of which varies depending on what is on that page.
So, the best place for the rule is attached to the frame, however, the frame height may need to change as well so grouping a rule and a frame isn't feasible (I don't think!).
Sounds like I need a screen shot of what you're doing lol?
I'm even more confused now.
Are 6,7,8,9 done as footnotes?
And how is 25, 30, 35 etc. inserted?
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Could you create a new paragraph style based on your footnote style, but with a rule-above added? Applying this style to the first note in the appropriate frames, and it will stay with that note.
I thought of that - but that requires two footnotes, I currently have a project or 7 using this method. It wouldn't be ideal for long documents, and it's manual setting of each one, so if text moves on you have to manually apply the first footnote style.
Starting with Eugene's questions of 8/31: There are NO InDesign “embedded” footnotes, all the “notes” are simply text in a text frame. When they refer to a note reference in text, the note numbers at the start of the footnote are superscripted with a character style. Just for info, the notes without the superscript numbers at the start (25-35, 33, 35) are notes that refer to the line numbers.
Unfortunately using a rule above the first note in the frame won’t work all the time either. Just as the notes for the right page (6, 7 and 8) start on the left page and continue with note number 9 on the right page, a single long note can start on the left page and end on the right page. At that point we’d have to break the paragraph and restyle the 2nd half of the note with out the rule. We did this in another book and it was only a minor irritation. If this series though it would be a killer over the long haul.
After looking at it again last night for a while I think anchoring a rule in the first line of the footnote still seems to be the best way. It’s easy to place if a library is left open, I can script it if I find it necessary and it keeps the text flow in tact for possible later repurposing. Maybe the best place for the anchor is the middle of the line giving the best chance that it will stay in the right place if text moves a bit forward or backward. The one good thing about the way it anchors is that the anchor’s horizontal position doesn’t matter.
Thanks to both of you for your time and all the best.
The only problem with an anchored line is that if you delete or move text you run the risk of moving the line or deleting the line.
I'm afraid this is just one of those situations where Ventura has a slight upper hand over InDesign.
I wouldn't normally have more than one frame per page on a document like this. It would just be one continuous text frame from start to finish.