17 Replies Latest reply on Nov 3, 2016 6:26 AM by vavillasenor

    How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?

    hlwaddell Level 1

      How do you embed fonts in an InDesign document? or can you only embed fonts when exporting to a PDF?? I know how you embed links...is there something similar for fonts??

       

      Thanks

        • 1. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
          mckayk_777 Level 2

          Package the document is what you probably need

          • 2. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
            Dov Isaacs Adobe Employee

            To answer your question directly, you cannot directly embed fonts used in an InDesign document into that document itself with the following exception. If you place a PDF or EPS file with embedded fonts into an InDesign document, those fonts remain embedded; you don't need to have any other copy of those fonts available to view, print, or export to PDF.

             

            As indicated by another responder, packaging an InDesign document can provide a means of moving fonts with the document, albeit as separate files in the package (of course, limited to your licensing rights to those fonts).

             

                      - Dov

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            • 3. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
              Ernesto Chávez Nuño Level 1

              Thanks, Dov Isaacs.

               

              Would you please tell me where to find information about "packaging"?

               

              I know how to embed all the images, but not the fonts.

               

              I just had this bad experience with the printing process because they had to work with the InDesign file and fonts were not included.

               

              Thanks!

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

              • 5. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                Migintosh Level 4

                Ernesto Chávez Nuño wrote:

                I know how to embed all the images…

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                If you mean that you are embedding the image in the Links pallet (like this)…

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                …you might want to reconsider. Whether you are packing to archive or to send the whole job to a third party, you will want to have the actual images that are placed in the InDesign document, in case they need to be edited for some reason. As long as the InDesign file knows where the linked images are, it will be able to output at the best quality that the images provide, and your InDesign file won't take on the extra file size, which can sometimes cause a file to go corrupt.

                 

                If you are sending to a print provider, the best practice is to export a PDF, in which case you won't need to package any fonts or images. The print provider will tell you what PDF settings to use.

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                • 6. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                  Willi Adelberger Most Valuable Participant

                  You should not embed images, only link them as embedding is one of the main causes of currupted files, if an INDD file becomes huge.

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                  • 7. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                    Ernesto Chávez Nuño Level 1

                    Thanks, Migintosh

                     

                    Yes, I did the embed process the way you explain. I will ask to the comunity another thing wich took me to embed the images (not that I wanted to) Thanks again.

                     

                    Embeded.jpg

                    • 8. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                      Ernesto Chávez Nuño Level 1

                      Many thanks!

                       

                      In a short time I will ask the comunity another question, the reason wich took me to embed the images (not that I wanted to) Thanks again!

                      • 9. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                        Ernesto Chávez Nuño Level 1

                        Explaining why I had to embed all the images and fonts:

                         

                        I wanted the printed docoument to have images that completely fil the sheet, so that no white frame would appear. I wanted to look like this:
                        Screen Shot 2016-06-30 at 8.31.36 PM.png
                        Therefore, I had the image exceed from the frame, like his:
                        Screen Shot 2016-06-30 at 8.32.17 PM.png
                        The problem is that the print provider told me that none of the images had exceed the sheet (I thought the image avobe proved that the image was exceeded) ...
                        And then, the print provider told me that an image exceeded should look like this, with a blue line...
                        IMG_0145.jpg
                        I confess, I do not know what the printer provider is talking about... I thougth I was doing things correctly.
                        So they told me to send the hole inDesign file, with fonts and images (that is why I embeded them) so that they could fix the problem.
                        So... Would you please explain to me what this is all about and how can I find more information about this?
                        Thanks to all the community, I really appreciate all your support
                        • 10. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                          BobLevine MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                          You don't embed images to transfer the file. You use the file>package command to put everything into a single folder.

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                          • 11. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                            Willi Adelberger Most Valuable Participant

                            When you create new document or in Document Setup you have a button more option. After pressing that you see in the lower part Bleed. Add the bleed amount, the printer requires. All images on the edge have to exceed up to the BleedBox as this frame is called. The images musst exceed in a visible way and any coloured background too to the edge. Due to not exactly working cutting machines otherwise white zones would appear. Any picture has to be printed several mm outside the final cutting edge of the frame. In German we call these white areas „Blitzer” and images which exceed the final edge „randabfallende Bilder“.

                             

                            But embedding those images is very dangerous. I have seen to many files which became corrupted due to the fact that images were embedded and the INDD file became huge and complicated. Don't embed images, link them.

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                            • 12. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                              Ernesto Chávez Nuño Level 1

                              ... Really big difference! I did it and when opened the folder there were ALL the files organised. So different...

                               

                              Thanks BobLevine!

                              • 13. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                                Ernesto Chávez Nuño Level 1

                                I have already done a cuple tests and is very different to apply those bleed areas to a document.

                                 

                                I know now how to do it correctly

                                 

                                Thanks for the information!

                                • 14. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                                  tomh52056997 Level 1

                                  Regarding the embedding of fonts, you can "Create outlines" of the text if it's an uncommon font that you think won't convert properly in a PDF. Simply go to the "Type" dropdown menu > "Create Outline." This feature is also handy if you share files with other people using InDesign who may not have the same font loaded on their computer.

                                  • 15. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                                    Dov Isaacs Adobe Employee

                                    At Adobe we certainly don't buy into this practice for any purpose other than special artistic effects that cannot be achieved by any other mean whatsoever.

                                     

                                    The practice of “outlining text” to bypass embedding of fonts in PDF is an archaic practice inconsistent with best workflow practices yielding bloated PDF files that cannot be searched or touch-up edited and that display and print with degraded quality.

                                     

                                    Trying to “embed fonts in an InDesign file” using this technique is even worse. You lose the ability to edit the text.

                                     

                                              - Dov

                                    • 16. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                                      Willi Adelberger Most Valuable Participant

                                      tomh52056997 schrieb:

                                       

                                      Regarding the embedding of fonts, you can "Create outlines" of the text if it's an uncommon font that you think won't convert properly in a PDF. Simply go to the "Type" dropdown menu > "Create Outline." This feature is also handy if you share files with other people using InDesign who may not have the same font loaded on their computer.

                                      Sorry, this is bulls…

                                      NEVER convert fonts to outline as you destroy your document:

                                      1. You loose text frame color.
                                      2. You loose text frame stroke.
                                      3. You loose paragraph rules above.
                                      4. You loose paragraph rules below.
                                      5. You loose underlines.
                                      6. You loose strike through.
                                      7. You loose paragraph shading.
                                      8. You loose automatic numbers.
                                      9. You loose automatic bullets.
                                      10. You loose cross references' ability to target to changing content.
                                      11. You loose footnote markers.
                                      12. You loose all footnotes themselves.
                                      13. You can't convert living headers and footers without overriding from the master, which can cause massive changes in the stacking order, in the layout. It will result in different visibility, text wrap. And not every item is allowed to override. Overriding makes damage which will mix up content with orientation.
                                      14. You loose text editability.
                                      15. You loose hinting.
                                      16. You loose your mind.
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                                      • 17. Re: How do you embed fonts in an InDesign Document?
                                        vavillasenor Level 1

                                        Hi Dov,

                                        I'm sorry, but I'm also lost on the embedding fonts issue. I'm doing a children's book, so there are a number of different fonts, sometimes all on one page. I've found most of them in Typekit, and synced them via the cloud.

                                         

                                        But when I save it as a pdf, those fonts disappear and it seems to revert to a standard font. I have no idea how to fix this, and from your answer above, it looks like I can't embed the fonts at all...

                                         

                                        I'm rather confused. Any help would be much appreciated!

                                         

                                        thanks,

                                        Victoria