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1. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
JSS1138 Oct 25, 2011 6:24 PM (in response to nados)Get the card with the most memory. (Make sure it's DDR5 memory.)
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2. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
Stephen_Spider Oct 25, 2011 6:57 PM (in response to nados)I'm using the 560 ti with no complaints.
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3. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 25, 2011 7:38 PM (in response to JSS1138)Ok... lets assume i can get any of the 2gb+ cards below although most of EVGA's are out of stock at most online stores.
I can get the GTX 560 ti with 2gb of ram ($280), the 570 with 2.5gb ($395), the GTX 580 with 3gb ($600 - $730) and the GTX 590 with 3gb ($750).
1. which one would be the minimum i can get away with?
2. in your opinion, which brand is good; EVGA, ASUS, MSI, PNY...?
thanks
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4. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 25, 2011 7:38 PM (in response to Stephen_Spider)Spider,
Is yours a 1 or 2gb card? And is your work of similar or more complexity?
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5. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
Yiu-kun Oct 25, 2011 7:39 PM (in response to nados)You'll want to go with the one with the most memory. Unless you're gaming on the machine as well, you might just want to get the 580 3GB edition. Unless an Adobe employee can give us any information on any expected dates for multi-processor-GPU card support...
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6. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
RjL190365 Oct 25, 2011 8:05 PM (in response to nados)I would not recommend a GTX 590 for use with Premiere Pro CS5.x: The GTX 590 is actually a dual-GPU card, linked internally via SLI - but Adobe does not support SLI at all, and Premiere Pro CS 5.5.1 (the latest version) still supports only one GPU. Thus, only half of the GTX 590 gets utilized at all by CS5.x's MPE GPU-accelerated mode. And due to the excessive latencies in switching from SLI to single-GPU mode, the GTX 590 actually runs slower in CS5.x than even a GTX 550 Ti, let alone a GTX 570 or GTX 580.
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7. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 25, 2011 8:32 PM (in response to RjL190365)I would point to the GTX 560 ti 2gb unless someone can answer the - how much realtime should i expect - question...
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8. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 25, 2011 8:50 PM (in response to RjL190365)RjL,
The GTX 590 also has five times the CUDA cores and better graphics and computing performance (what ever that means?) of the GTX 550 ti and twice the cores of the GTX 580. So, due to the increase in cores, wouldn't i still get better performance even though the GTX runs slower assuming that all 1024 cores of the 590 are used even if your using only one gpu?
You know... the more help you have the more work can get done at the same time!
Not that i'm favoring the 590, i'm just making a point.
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9. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
Yiu-kun Oct 25, 2011 8:56 PM (in response to nados)The GTX 590 is two GTX 580s stuck together. In order to avoid heat problems, the GTX 590 had to be slightly underclocked. The Adobe Suite can only utilize 1 graphics processor at a time, thus your performace would actually be better on an actual GTX 580.
The only reason why you would consider a GTX 590 over the others is if you use Maya or other 3D softwares, or maybe if you want to play the latest games on maximum settings. Otherwise, nothing will be able to take advantage of the other half of the GTX 590.
Also consider, you can get the GTX 580 in a 3GB edition, giving you the same amount of VRAM while giving you the maximum Adobe efficiency.
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10. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
RjL190365 Oct 25, 2011 9:02 PM (in response to nados)In this case, no. Only half of the GPU is utilized at all on the GTX 590 - and each of the GPUs in the GTX 590 is clocked slower than a GTX 570 (and much slower than a GTX 580). Remember, the GTX 590 actually consists of two GPUs, not just one - and Adobe Premiere Pro supports only one GPU - period. I looked at the results list on the PPBM5 site, and found only one system with a GTX 590 on that list. Despite being an i7 system, the GTX 590-equipped system needed all of 57 seconds to render from the timeline in MPE GPU mode. That's slower than most of the results from far lesser GPUs, including the GT 430 and the now-EOL GT 240.
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11. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 25, 2011 9:04 PM (in response to RjL190365)Well now I'm leaning towards the GTX 560 ti 2gb or maybe the 580 3gb unless someone can answer the how much real time on the average i can expect.
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12. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
Yiu-kun Oct 25, 2011 9:25 PM (in response to nados)I can't provide Adobe related specifications, but here:
http://www.hwcompare.com/9133/geforce-gtx-560-ti-vs-geforce-gtx-580/
The 580 will definately give higher performance, but the 560 will be more efficient. If you can afford it, go 580.
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13. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 25, 2011 9:41 PM (in response to Yiu-kun)Accorting to the link you provided... "If using a high screen resolution is important to you, then the GeForce GTX 580 is a better choice, by a large margin.".
Well my monitors are always at their native res: 1920x1200. So, it looks like its the GTX 580 3gb! The only down side may be to fan noise. I hear they're pretty load! The lowest price i see is about $550.
Are there any brands i should stay away from?
Thanks a bunch you all your inputs.
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14. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
Yiu-kun Oct 25, 2011 9:43 PM (in response to nados)Monitors? If on a multi-monitor system, then the 560 ti shouldn't even be looked at. Definately try to get the 3GB version though, After Effects can eat up that VRAM pretty quickly, esspecially if you use the Roto-tool. I got to about 30 seconds into 1920x1080 25FPS video and After Effects crashed due to insufficient VRAM.
Good luck with your purchase and machine!
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15. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 25, 2011 11:51 PM (in response to Yiu-kun)Will Premiere CS5 use the GTX 580 even if i leave my GeForce 5900 in the machine?
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16. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
Yiu-kun Oct 26, 2011 1:06 AM (in response to nados)So long as the GeForce 5900 is in the secondary slot, yes. If you happen to be a light gamer, you could set that as your PhysX card to take some load off the processor.
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17. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 26, 2011 8:01 AM (in response to Yiu-kun)Yiu-kun,
you could set that as your PhysX card to take some load off the processor.
Do you mean "that" as the 580 or 5900?
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18. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
Yiu-kun Oct 26, 2011 8:13 AM (in response to nados)Do excuse me, I meant the 5900 could be your PhysX card. This really is only relavent for gamers or if you happen to have an underpowered CPU.
I've not done any reaserch on PhysX cards nor the computing power differences between GPUs and CPUs.
I've just done a quick check - does your GPU have an AGP interface like so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NVIDIA_Personal_Cinema_GeForce_FX_5900_Ultra_ES.jpgIf it does, this is going to cause problems for you. Modern Graphics solutions use PCI Express, AGP was dumped a while ago, meaning you'd need to upgrade your Motherboard, CPU and possibly RAM before being able to upgrade your GPU.
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19. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 26, 2011 8:21 AM (in response to Yiu-kun)Yiu-kun wrote:
does your GPU have an AGP interface
No..., my GeForce 5900 GT is a fairly new PCI Express x16 card and I have a fairly new W7 x64, i7920 processor with 12gb of ddr3 ram. They are only a few years old.
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20. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 26, 2011 8:24 AM (in response to nados)Well folks, I ordered the GTX 580 3gb card! It should be here tomorrow!
I'll let you know how it works out.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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21. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
Yiu-kun Oct 26, 2011 8:36 AM (in response to nados)Oh alright. I wasn't able to find any information on the 5900, for some reason only results for the FX 5900 (much older card) showed up.
I'm glad I could be of assistance! You made sure to get the 3GB version yeah?
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22. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
RjL190365 Oct 26, 2011 8:42 AM (in response to Yiu-kun)Actually, you got two of the digits switched around: Your card is actually the 9500 GT, not the 5900 GT. The 5900 GT never existed at all.
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23. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 26, 2011 9:04 AM (in response to RjL190365)Oops... my bad.... you'r right , it's the GeForce 9500 GT PCIe card.
And, yes... i got the 3gb GeForce GTX 580 card.
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24. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
Yiu-kun Oct 26, 2011 11:42 AM (in response to nados)Good one man. Do you know how to tweak the driver for the card to enable Adobe Hardware support? If not, there are tons of threads all dedicated to people asking the same thing, and really it's a simple matter of finding a file, opening it with Notepad and entering the name of your GPU there.
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25. Re: Your opinion on deciding on either a GTX 560 ti, 570, 580 or 590 card to buy.
nados Oct 26, 2011 4:20 PM (in response to Yiu-kun)Do you know how to tweak the driver for the card to enable Adobe Hardware support?
yes, i've already added the entry in the "cuda_supported_cards.txt" file, but i'll run the GPUSniffer.exe program again when i install the card to make sure the entry is correct.




