....just a thought.....although others, esp. Harm Millard would have a more detailed and knowledgeable answer for you.....based on what I have seen them discuss in earlier posts...you may be suffering for having 4 drives in an "onboard RAID".....the best configuration, as commonly built by ADK company, with your hardware would be to split your 4 "D drive" HDDs into two separate RAID 0s, ( 2 drives on each RAID). Without a dedicated RAID controller,( Areca card,or similar), 4 drives off the onboard RAID will not work well. For onboard RAID off the motherboard, 2 RAID 0 groups perform very high in the benchmark test " PPBM5"....check it out.
Then, see Harm's chart on this forum for what to place on each of the three drives you would now have....hope this helps.....JFPhoton
A new system with a new installation of Windows needs to be tuned for optimal performance, because Windows turns on a number of things that are not needed at all but do seriously slow down the editing experience.
Although it says Vista, it also applies to Win7: Adobe Forums: Guide for installing and tuning a Vista...
Make sure you have indexing and compression turned off on all drives and arrays, uninstall the Sidebar, MSN and Games. Disable anti-virus, anti-anything during editing sessions, disable superfluous processes and services, kill processes like mDNSresponder, jusched, and the like.
I'm geetting ready to build a similar system.
I'd rather not get a 2nd computer to web surf, etc. if possible.
Can I tell MS Security Essentials to simply not bother PPro operations as well as other program operations and thereby leave it on while editing?
Seems like with 16GB RAM you should be able to do whatever?
Or should you allocate 4 to 8GB for other things besides PPro?
Thanks Harm and JFPhoton.
I'm following the above steps and will report in a few hours to this thread.
I went through all the posts and guides..
In short, stopped services, uninstalled rubbish programs, disabled anti virus, updated drivers, installed relevant updates, stripped visual and maxed the performance every where I could.
Installed ccleaner to disable all the unnecessary programs, cleaned the registry, etc.
And the most important thing, separated the 4 disks array into 2*2 raid 0 arrays using the on board raid controller.
So now my setup is as following:
C drive, 500gb for os& progs
D drive (raid 0, 2*2 1tb black 7200 rpm) for new projects
E drive (2TB green 7200 rpm) for backups
F drive (raid 0, 2*2 1tb black 7200 rpm) for Scratch, Pagefile, Renders.
How is this for the setup? anything else you guys can think off?
Do you recommend OC'ing? or it should be enough for the time being and the system shouldn't feel laggy with this rig?
Edit: Speed increased rapidly while working, now moving segments of files is being done quickly.
The problem is, viewing the image in the time line is still laggy and bumpy.
I need to zoom in and just then I can have a more smooth image, but it's not possible this rig will act like this.
Is it something to do with the GPU?
...you may want to make sure that indexing and compression are turned off for each drive ...then set the windows page file to a fixed number,,( same minimum and maximum amount on one of your raid arrays....that figure should be at least 1.5 to 2 times your installed memory )...then make sure you allocate your " media cache" and media data files on one of the raid arrays....probably the one with your previews.....the video source files should be on the first raid array with your project files. Of course, these would be copies of your original files which would already be safely backed up before you placed them on a RAID 0 array!! Next, you should make sure drives are defragged, then testhem for speed with a HDD utility like HD Tune Pro, or similar to verify good HDD performance....finally, go to PPBM5 website and test your machine and submit the results....with that data, people on this forum may be able to help you further...DV footage should go easily on your rig...is your video card working with "the hack" giving you the MPE hardware mode?? Good luck all this!
JFPhoton, thanks for all the advices, I have already done all of these including the MPE hack.
Harm, thanks for a most detailed guide which really increased the speed of the comp as I have mentioned.
Bill, link is broken, Did you mention this one: http://ppbm5.com/Win7Tuning.html? I'm starting to read it right now.
After i'll read Bill's guide, i'll run ppbm benchmark again, currently this is my score:
Brand CPU Model CPU Clock speed CPU Phys. Cores # RAM Total RPI Disk I/O MPEG DVD H.264 BR MPE Off MPE On MPE Gain Version Video card Windows OS Size OS Speed OS # OS Raid OS Project Size Project Speed project # Raid Project # HDD Raid controller 180 2011-10-28 12:18:30 Medieval#1 Desktop Asus P8Z68 V Pro Intel i7-2600K 3.4 1 4 16 305 2.79 103 123 73 90 6 15 5.5 GTX 560 Win7 64 SATA 500 7200 1 SATA 1000 7200 4 Raid 0 5 On-board
Thanks again guys, you are really helping me out.
After all the changes I have made I got the results:
Brand CPU Model CPU Clock speed CPU Phys. Cores # RAM Total RPI Disk I/O MPEG DVD H.264 BR MPE Off MPE On MPE Gain Version Video card Windows OS Size OS Speed OS # OS Raid OS Project Size Project Speed project # Raid Project # HDD Raid controller 100 2011-10-31 19:37:52 GarthRhymer Desktop Asus P8p67 Pro Intel i7-2600K (OC) 4.4 1 4 16 232 2.37 57 110 59 72 6 12 5.5 GTX 470 Win7 64 SATA 1000 7200 1 SATA 1000 7200 2 Raid 0 5 On-board 149 2011-11-05 15:39:23 Medieval#2 Desktop Asus P8Z68 V Pro Intel i7-2600K 3.4 1 4 16 274 2.7 69 126 73 90 6 15 5.5 GTX 560 Win7 64 SATA 500 7200 1 SATA 1000 7200 2 Raid 0 5 On-board 181 2011-10-28 12:18:30 Medieval#1 Desktop Asus P8Z68 V Pro Intel i7-2600K 3.4 1 4 16 305 2.79 103 123 73 90 6 15 5.5 GTX 560 Win7 64 SATA 500 7200 1 SATA 1000 7200 4 Raid 0 5 On-board
Well, it's clearly faster, especially in the Disk I/O, the main change was to re organize the 4 disk raid 0 array (using the on board controller) to two separate arrays (2 disks in each array), resulting much better speed.
How ever the problem persists, not only that but now the CPU freeze every now and then, causing me to lose time and data..
The only thing I'm thinking off after all the modification I have done, is to re install windows from scratch including any other software.
I'll be glad to hear your thoughts about this matter.