5 Replies Latest reply on Dec 9, 2011 6:48 PM by paramita7

    Laptop Specs for Premiere Pro CS5.5

    chrisravenscroft1

      Hi there

       

      I'm afraid I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to purchasing hardware etc and I apologise in advance if my questions appear somewhat naive..

       

      I am looking to purchase a laptop primarily in order to be used in conjunction with Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5. I need to be able to work on the move.. hence the laptop.

       

      In an ideal world, I would obviously order a laptop to the highest possible spec. But of course there is a budget to consider.. I am looking to spend anywhere bewteen £1500 - £1800 ( £2000 absolute max).

       

      So my question is that if one has to compromise in terms of spend on specifications.. is it better for video editing with this software to go for a faster processor or a better graphics card?

      Also, am I better to have more RAM (say 16 instead of 8 GB) or is it better to spend the money on a better processor and stick with 8 GB ram? Or should I get a better graphics card and stick with 8 GB ram?

      Is it absolutely necessary to get one of the recommended Nvidia graphics cards listed on the Adobe website in order to be able to edit in hd?

       

      And finally.. would I benefit from having a solid state drive instead of a fast hard drive? I know that video takes up a lot of storage space, but I would be working on projects of maximum say.. 50GB. Once the projects have completed I would be storing them on an external hard drive anyway.

      I dont really understand RAID or ssds etc.. As I said.. somewhat naive!

       

      Overall, my question is.. on a relatively limited budget, where should my priorities lie in choosing the spec if the laptop's primary use is to edit video with Adobe CS5.5?

       

      Can anyone send me a link to a laptop that matches the necessary spec or send me somewhere that might help? Even if its above my budget, it might help to get my head around some facts and figures.. I know that new products with new specs are coming on the market all the time..

       

      At the moment I am looking at Dell.co.uk XPS 15 i7-2670QM, 8192 MB DDR3, full hd, 750 GB (7200 rpm) Hard Drive, 2GB GT 540 Graphics Card - £939 with current discounts applied..

       

      or from PCspecialist.co.uk - Vortex ii - i72760QM,  full hd, 16GB Samsung DDR3, 500GB WD Scorpio black 16MB cache (7200 rpm), 2GB GTX 580 Graphics Card - £1700

       

      Er... help!?!

       

      Many Thanks!!

       

      Hugh.

        • 1. Re: Laptop Specs for Premiere Pro CS5.5
          John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Some ideas for a Laptop Video Editing PC

          http://www.sagernotebook.com/

          http://www.adkvideoediting.com/systems/viewsystem.cfm?recordid=118

          http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=637440&csid=ITD &recordsPerPage=10#

          -NOTE only 1 hard drive in above, so you will need to add a 2nd drive or use eSata for video files

          -or Google "ASUS G74SX-BBK7" (without the quote "" marks)

          -or another brand laptop with the following features

          -the newer sandy bridge 2720 or 2820 quad processor

          -and nvidia graphics preferably the 460m, 485m is a bit much

          -1280x900 display with OpenGL 2.0-compatible graphics card

          -and 8 or 16 gig ram and Win7 64bit Pro

          -and 2 internal 7200 HDDs minimum

          • 2. Re: Laptop Specs for Premiere Pro CS5.5
            JFPhoton Level 3

            ....go to hardware forum....many discussions on this topic there....also, check out the video benchmark results on the PPBM5 website, which compares the performance of all types of video rigs,but, has a separate tab just for laptop results.

             

            Things to be aware of :

             

            Minimum 16 GB of installed ,matching RAM

            Minimum 1GB DDR5 video memory NVIDIA card ONLY, ( as only NVidia can activate Mercury Playback acceleration, which speeds timeline render for previewing by a factor of 10!)  NO ATI video card!!

            Minimum TWO 7,200rpm HDDS,( preferably onboard)....you can get Asus ,or, other models that have 2 internal HDD bays...you can clone supplied boot drive onto a SATA III SSD, then use original HDD in 2nd bay, or, even 2nd SSD there....then, even better, add THIRD HDD onto external eSATA,or, USB 3 port with cheap dock, ( or, a higher quality eSATA RAID solution).

            BIG ENOUGH SCREEN to see what the heck you are doing!!! Esp. if you are over 40!!!....I prefer the 1920x1080, 17.3 screen at least, PLUS, an HDMI port which can feed an HDTV to monitor your timeline full-size,( also shows you what it would look like on a TV).

             

            Be advised : if editing DSLR material, some users have complained on the hardware forum that PPro 5.5 is having issues scrubbing and playing some DSLR codecs....this issue supposedly did not exist in previous version 5.03...Adobe employees have stated they are still working on this....seems to affect Nikon material.....I have not had a problem with the Canon footage.

             

            Best idea is to read as much as you can on the hardware forum, decide if you want to wait for newer technology coming out...it changes so rapidly....then, seek help on hardware forum from experienced, professional users...although I do not know that much....what I learned there from Harm Millard and others got me off to a good start without spending too much money...I too travel constantly, and need a workable, portable solution.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                JFPhoton

            • 3. Re: Laptop Specs for Premiere Pro CS5.5
              JEShort01 Level 4

              Chris,

               

              You're totally on the right track with the Vortex II; It's a Clevo (aka Sager)

              - get the 17.3" model

              - GTX 560M will do a great job and you will save some pounds vs. the GTX 580M

              - i7-2670QM (sweet spot for their available options considering performance for the price)

              - 16GB for sure!

              - 120GB Intel 320 boot

              - 500GB 7200 Momentus (2nd drive)

              - Win7 64bit Home

              - external G-RAID 1.5TB RAID 0 (eSATA) external drive (for cache, scratch, exports, and backups of critical data)

              - Blu-ray burner option if you need it (your call)

               

              Cheers,

               

              Jim

              • 4. Re: Laptop Specs for Premiere Pro CS5.5
                JFPhoton Level 3

                ....you may want to rearch exact actual throughput speed of that  eSATA port with the seller, as the particular controller may only be capable of a limited speed....despite claims based on the " interface speed"....you would not want to be disappointed if an external array did not perform up to your exxpectations. It seems  the nature of your disk setup will  affect the performance of the laptop. For example, my i7 740QM managed a good score on the PPBM5 test ,esp. when I used a Corsair F120 Sata II SSD in each drive bay..those SSDs have read and write specs of over 200MB/sec.,( not a slower write speed like some SSDs). When using a Seagate Momentus Hybrid 500GB HDD in the second bay as the project and media drive, my PPBM test results were about 10-15% worse. However, you will find criticism on the hardware forum about using SSDs for anything but the OS and programs drive. For a laptop, I am not sure about this....Harm Millard claims SSDs performances decrease with use....but for a laptop, where you may be offloading important stuff regularly, everything may be different. It is hard to believe that there would be no benefit from the speed increase of using two Corsair F120 or 240 GB SATA III SSDs, one in each bay, where each has a read AND write speed of over 500MBs per second!!!!  I would like to see more testing of this setup.....you will see other laptops on the PPBM5 test with a better CPU than mine doing far worse on the test either by not having enough memory,or, by having a slower disk configuration that may have just two regular 7,200 rpm HDDs...for a laptop, I think the newer, faster, SATA III SSDs, may make a difference.  I could be wrong...it may be best to pick a laptop that has a three HDD configuration...one for OS and programs, and two in RAID 0 for all else.....hopefully, someone with some expertise and knowledge can chime in to comment!!.....JFPhoton

                • 5. Re: Laptop Specs for Premiere Pro CS5.5
                  paramita7

                  I have used an SSD with my laptop (Lenovo W520) as second hard drive and discovered that the specs of the Ocz Agility 3 of around 500 MBs do not apply to (uncompressed) video but only to material that is easy to compress. Actual write speeds were around 110 MB/s! I also used an external esata drive with write speeds around 130 MBs. When using an external esata raid0 setup, the speed was around 160 MBs with the bottle neck in the raid controller, not the esata controller, at least that's what I found out after a phone call with the support department. Specs from manufacturers are pretty useless and only thorough testing gives you the facts. Black Magic Diskspeed test is one of the better disk tools to measure the speed for video.