4 Replies Latest reply on Dec 9, 2011 6:23 PM by twerkema

    Ghost paragraph styles


      We've been working on a document that is quite long that was inherited from a previous designer. The document had tons of style sheets, not all of which were necessary. Some we were able to delete with "select all unused." There were two that it insisted were in use that we couldn't find anywhere (Find/Replace function). They aren't linked to any other style sheets. They aren't inherited from any linked documents (all links are tiffs). They aren't connected to anything it seems, yet, InDesign insists they are in use. If this was a short document, I'd create a new file and copy everything over, but it's too long for that. Anyone have any ideas on how to figure out what's going on?

        • 1. Re: Ghost paragraph styles
          [Jongware] Most Valuable Participant

          Try exporting to IDML and opening that. (Don't throw away your original document immediately. Just to be Safe.) It might loosen up some of the grit that accumulates in InDesign files.


          If that doesn't work, you can try unzipping the IDML -- just append ".zip" to the file name -- and use a good plain text editor to search through all files for these paragraph style names. At best it'll show you exactly where they were used, or at least you'll know for sure they weren't used anywhere.

          • 2. Re: Ghost paragraph styles
            twerkema Level 1

            Thanks for the response. Two interesting suggestions. The first one didn't change anything. The second, when I changed the idml to .zip it still opens in InDesign and when I force open it with TextEdit, it says it's not a valid file. If I open the indd in text edit, it doesn't really give me any more info. All of my style sheets only appear once, in the style sheet main listing towards the top of the document. Any thoughts? Could be user error...

            • 3. Re: Ghost paragraph styles
              [Jongware] Most Valuable Participant

              Changing the extension to .zip should have made your system extract the individual files ... They are all plain text files, in XML format, so you can open them one by one with TextEdit and inspect them.


              (Since you are apparently at a Mac, I'd suggest downloading TextWrangler 'cause it allows you to search through multiple files with ease.)

              • 4. Re: Ghost paragraph styles
                twerkema Level 1

                I tried the imdl to zip thing a few different ways but none worked. The TextWrangle app is pretty neat. I'm going to look through it more later and hopefully find what I'm looking for. I'll update this post after I do that. Thanks!


                Update: I got the zip thing to work. I zipped it with the built in utility, then had to uncompress it with a different utility (StuffIt). Otherwise it recognized what the file originally was. Then, I used TextWrangler to do the Multi-File Find function. I think I found one place where it is used, story_u635. The xml file doesn't have any text in it, so how do I figure out where that is in my InDesign document? It refers to a table, but is that just xml language, or is that a table in my document?

                So far all of you suggestions have been really helpful. Thank you!