6 Replies Latest reply on Jun 18, 2008 12:31 PM by

    Is Fw really better for web graphics?

    I._G.
      Ok, so I've downloaded the Fw trial to see how it's better for web graphics than Photoshop. With Photoshop the usual problem is that I have to mess around to turn on/off layers, copy parts of images into new images to export transparent logos, tabs etc. so I hoped that Fw have some intelligent slice system for one step exports. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find it. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to me that Fw has a very primitive flat slicing system, no overlapping is possible. So for a very basic example if I have a background graphics on the top of the page that I want to export (not the entire page) and a logo *on* it that I want to export as a transparent png or maybe just as a jpg including the background, it's impossible, because the logo slice will divide the page into rectangles no matter what. I don't care about HTML/CSS/whatever I just want to export overlapping graphic parts in one simple step by properly defined slices. Looks like I couldn't find the one step solution I hoped for in Fw. Am I missing something?



        • 1. Re: Is Fw really better for web graphics?
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          I. G. wrote:
          > Ok, so I've downloaded the Fw trial to see how it's better for web graphics
          > than Photoshop. With Photoshop the usual problem is that I have to messing
          > around to turn on/off layers, copy parts of images into new images to export
          > transparent logos etc. so I hoped that Fw have some intelligent slice system
          > for one step exports. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find it. Maybe I'm
          > wrong but it seems to me that Fw has a very primitive flat slicing system, no
          > overlapping is possible. So for a very basic example if I have a background
          > graphics on the top of the page that I want to export (not the entire page) and
          > a logo *on* it that I want to export as a transparent png or maybe just as a
          > jpg including the background, it's impossible, because the logo slice will
          > divide the page into rectangles no matter what. I don't care about
          > HTML/CSS/whatever I just want to export overlapping graphic slices in one
          > simple step by properly defined slices. Looks like I couldn't find the one step
          > solution I hoped for in Fw. Am I missing something?
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >

          In a word. Yes. It's designed to work with screen graphics, and handles
          both vector and bitmaps well at the same time. It's got quite a few
          more web-centric workflows than Photoshop.

          Fireworks CS3 supports multiple pages. Each page supports it's own web
          layer, so you have much more control over slices and can avoid the
          problems of overlapping slices this way.

          Overlapping slices don't work because it's impossible for FW to
          determine which one is the most important - and should be sliced in whole

          >>So for a very basic example if I have a background
          > graphics on the top of the page that I want to export (not the entire
          page) and
          > a logo *on* it that I want to export as a transparent png or maybe
          just as a
          > jpg including the background, it's impossible, because the logo slice
          will
          > divide the page into rectangles no matter what.<<


          I'm not clear on what you're trying to do here as you seemed to have
          left some information out. Assuming you want a repeating background
          image and as separate slice for the logo.

          Draw a slice that covers the width of your background, by however many
          pixels tall you need. Either lower on the page or on a separate page
          plave the logo and slice it as well. As you are not concerned about the
          html or CSS it's pretty straightforward from there. Just export the
          slices, and tell FW not to include unsliced areas. In your html, set you
          background image as a background image and your logo either as an inline
          image or as a background image within another containing div.


          HTH

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          • 2. Re: Is Fw really better for web graphics?
            good info there
            • 3. Re: Is Fw really better for web graphics?
              geeturs
              What limitations does the trial have?
              • 4. Re: Is Fw really better for web graphics?
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                30-day expiration is all.

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                "geeturs" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                > What limitations does the trial have?

                • 5. Re: Is Fw really better for web graphics?
                  RolyRoger Level 1
                  most adobe products are 30 day trial
                  • 6. Re: Is Fw really better for web graphics?
                    thanks for solving my problem. now i can easily work on fireworks.