Do NOT go to non-facing pages. It willonly make things worse.
How many pages actually need a bleed at the gutter? All, or just a few? You do this by breaking the spread apart which you accomplich by turning off page shufling for that spread, then dragging the pages away from each other. That's fine for one or two, but if you need to do the whole file, use a script. You'll find complete directions, and the script buried in the comments, at InDesignSecrets » Blog Archive » Breaking Pages Apart to Bleed Off a Spine
tried script and got it to work,
though encountered another problem
and that was on some pages things moved from the margin,
whilst others were fine.
This is a bit scary.
Do you know a solution to this?
I used the Java script
Is there a newer script that overides the movement problem.
I look forward to your response.
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Can you post a before/after screen shot? I haven't heard of the shift problem before. In my testing I do see objects that cross the spine remain on one page or the other, depending on which page has the larger piece. That would be normal. You can deal with that by copying these objects, then pasting in place on the opposite page. or by pasting in place before you split the spread and cropping one to the smaller area.
been thinking more about this, and my last answer might not really be all that helpful, but I'm not actually sure at this point that you'd want to split the spread if there are objects that cross the spine. I would only split a pread, I think, when there are objectst that need to touch, but not cross, the spine and you want them to bleed. In other cases, adding an inside bleed to the document bleed settings should pick up the necessary additional area from the other side of the unbroken spread.
Any chance you could post a screen shot of a typical situation?
I hope this has removed my details.
I am reasonably new to Forums, so did not realise until too late that my
I have attached some screen shots of what is happening, including a screen
shot of the pages in there current double page spread format.
You will notice a curved graphics, logo and page no. at the outer edge of
each page in the spread and 10mm outer margin and 30mm gutter (15mm for
each page). Refer "Current spreads 10mm outer 15mm gutter.tiff"
What is happening:
1: Out of 96 pages, for some reason 4 double page spreads are not
separating. Refer "Not all pages separate.tiff"
They also appear to assume the left hand master page for both pages. Refer
"Unseparated pages are both RH pages.tiff"
2: The spreads that do separate, seem fine on left hand spread, but text
and pics have moved to the right 5mm
througout these right hand pages. Refer "Information RH page out of
Though I have been a designer for over 25 years, Indesign 5.5 is quite new
to me and so am learning as I go.
I am loving the experience, but do get stuck on a few details.
I am presume what is happening, is a result of my checking or not checking
the correct boxes some where along the line.
When I have run the 'separate pages script', I have unchecked the "Allow
document to shuffle" and "Allow selected spreads to shuffle".
I look forward to your response and am grateful for your assistance.
If worst comes to the worst, I can pull pages apart in Pages pallet
manually, but feel there must be a better way of achieving this.
I hope this is enough information. If you require any more information, do
not hesitate to contact myself.
I have embedded screen shots and blanked out logo for your perusal.
You are right, I probably only have to separate a few pages where images bleed into the gutter.
I do have full bleed around the individual pages in the document set up, but when saved as a PDF in single pages,
the bleed encroches on the wrong page. So I can get around this problem in this file, by simply hand separating the afftected pages.
But I would just like to know how to do this anyway, as though this particular document does not bleed throughtout, I may come accross this in the future.
I hope I am not wasting your time, as getting to this stage via this forum has given me the knowledge of how to get around the problem for now.
Thank you again for your assistance.
I hope the images refered to in the previous email clearly show my concerns.
I can't tell what's causing the shift. Are you patched to 7.5.2?
Tell us more about the spreads that didn't split. Were there three-page island spreads at some time? Could you possibly have re-enabled shuffling for these spreads and answered yes when asked about keepinghte page count?
Also, I don't see anything in the example pages that has anything on the inside edge that bleeds, so I'm wondering where the need to split the spreads come from? Is the probelm that when you export to PDF you are gtiing spreads instead of individual pages? If that's the case, I would guess you are exporting to Interactive PDF rather than Print. There are two types of PDF in the dropdown in CS5/5.5 and the default is PDF(Interactive), so you need to change it in the dialog.
Sorry I didn't see the email below.
There is only a couple of pages at the beginning of the document that
I am exporting as a press optimised PDF in single pages and the few pages
that need the bleed have the bleed on their facing page, rather than the
page it is supposed to be on.
I have been working with PDF's for years and can fix this by replacing the
pages in the PDF, but feel you shouldn't have to do this.
As mentioned, I can work around everything that is failing, for the output
of this job, but feel the program should be able to do these tasks that are
often required for print output. I would like to think a solution can be
found as future jobs may not be so easily to fix, especially if they have
I look forwards to your response.
Can you post a shot of one of theose spreads for me? If I can see waht the spread looks like I can give better advice about how to handle it.