6 Replies Latest reply on Jan 8, 2012 8:53 AM by Midtown Suburbia

    HD video does not run smoothly in Premiere Elements 7

    Midtown Suburbia

      I have been using Premiere Elements 7 to edit short videos for a couple years now with my standard definition camcorder. I recently bought an HD camcorder. It is impossible to edit these videos in the timeline as they don't run smoothly at all. The raw videos themselves play perfectly but not in Premiere. How can I fix this? Is there a way to lower the quality of the videos temporarily in the timeline just so I can edit them with the finished product being in HD?Will upgrading to Elements 10 fix the problem?

        • 1. Re: HD video does not run smoothly in Premiere Elements 7
          Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

          Maybe we need to make this a Frequently Asked Question. It comes up almost every day!

           

          What model of camcorder are you shooting you video with and in what format? How did you get the video from the camcorder to your computer?

           

          When you set up your Premiere Elements project, which project settings did you select?

           

          How fast is your processor? AVCHD video can require a quad core or i7 processor and 4 or more gigabytes of RAM. Version 10 handles AVCHD much more efficiently (when the project is properly set up) but still requires a very fast computer.

          • 2. Re: HD video does not run smoothly in Premiere Elements 7
            John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            Read Bill Hunt on a file type as WRAPPER http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037

            What is a CODEC... a Primer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811

            What CODEC is INSIDE that file? http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037

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            Report back with the codec details of your file, use the programs below... a screen shot works well to SHOW people what you are doing

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            For PC http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ or http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en

            For Mac http://mediainfo.massanti.com/

             

            How are your hard drives configured?

             

            My 3 hard drives are configured as...

            1 - 320Gig Boot for Win7 64bit Pro and all program installs

            2 - 320Gig data for Win7 swap file and video project files

            When I create a project on #2 drive, the various work files follow,

            so my boot drive is not used for the media cache folder and files

            3 - 1Terabyte data for all video files... input & output files (*)

            (*) for 4 drives, drive 3 all source files & drive 4 all output files

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            Search Microsoft to find out how to redirect your Windows swap file

            http://search.microsoft.com/search.aspx?mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US

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            Trying to use only ONE Hard Drive for Video Editing

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            You are a music conductor, with a baton that you use to point to various parts of the orchestra... this is like Windows pointing to various parts of the hard drive to do Windows housekeeping or to load program segments for various functions

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            Now, at the same time and with the same hand... while still using the baton to conduct the orchestra... pick up a bow and play a fiddle... this would be doing something with your video file at the same time as all the other work

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            You as a person cannot do both at the same time with the same hand

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            A computer is a LITTLE better, in that it can switch from one kind of task to another very quickly... but not quickly enough for EASY video editing

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            You need AT LEAST two hard drives (separate drives, never a partition http://forums.adobe.com/thread/650708 for more) with Windows (or Mac OS) and software on your boot drive, and video files on a 2nd drive so the boot drive is not slowed down by trying to do everything

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            I find that the three drives I use work very well for me, for editing AVCHD video... some people use a 4th drive, so video INPUT files are on drive three and all OUTPUT files are on drive four... I only bought a mid-tower case instead of a full tower case (my bad... but had to fit in the space available on my office desk!) so I use the three drives that will fit

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            Depending on your exact hardware (motherboard brand & model AND USB2 enclosure brand & model AND external hard drive brand & model) AND the type of video file, you may... or may NOT... be able to use an external USB2 hard drive for SD (Standard Definition) video editing

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            Steve Grisetti in the Premiere Elements forum http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856208 and Jim Simon in the Premiere Pro forum http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856433 use USB externals for editing

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            A USB3 hard drive connected to a motherboard with USB3 is supposed to be fast enough for video editing (I don't have such, so don't know) but eSata DOES have a fast enough data transfer for video editing... I have not used the eSata Dock below... for reference only, YMMV and all the usual disclaimers

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            http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-BlacX-eSATA-Docking-Station/dp/B001A4HAFS/ref=cm_cmu_pg_ t

            • 3. Re: HD video does not run smoothly in Premiere Elements 7
              Midtown Suburbia Level 1

              Steve,

               

              I'm shooting with a Sony NEX-5 at the highest quality. I got the video to my computer by putting the SD card in the slot on my computer and copying the files over. The files are AVCHD videos (.m2ts).

               

              "Full HD 1080i 30" was the project preset I selected.

               

              Processor: Pentium Dual-Core CPU T4200 @2.00 GHz

              RAM: 4.00 GB

              System type: 32-bit OS

               

              I realize the processor isn't the fastest but there has to be a way to edit HD video from consumer camcorders without a supercomputer.

              • 4. Re: HD video does not run smoothly in Premiere Elements 7
                nealeh Level 5

                Midtown Suburbia wrote:

                 

                Processor: Pentium Dual-Core CPU T4200 @2.00 GHz

                RAM: 4.00 GB

                System type: 32-bit OS

                 

                Sorry Midtown but that will never edit AVCHD smoothly. A quad-core machine  is pretty much the minimum. I have a quad-core Q6600 @ 2.40GHz on W7-64 and it stutters with AVCHD. I choose to use my Sony DSC-HX9V (I believe it uses the same codec as the NEX series) at 1440 x 1080i and use HDV 1080i Project Settings. This gives me a smooth enough performance and sufficient space to crop and zoom for my intended output format - DVD.

                 

                Cheers,
                --
                Neale
                Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

                • 5. Re: HD video does not run smoothly in Premiere Elements 7
                  John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  Do you have at least TWO 7200rpm hard drives... boot drive for OS and all software and data drive for video files?

                  • 6. Re: HD video does not run smoothly in Premiere Elements 7
                    Midtown Suburbia Level 1

                    Thanks Neale,

                     

                    I figured my machine was underequipped. So now, what are my options? My NEX has the option of recording in MPEG4 at 1080i. Would my computer be able to handle that better?

                     

                    Also, I tried using the HDV 1080i Project Settings with my existing AVCHD videos and that actually helped a little but it's still not smooth enough for precise editing. How should I convert my videos and to what?