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1. Re: Conversion of FM Cross-Refs to RH Hyperlinks (<a href="...">) - Maximum Lengths
Jeff_Coatsworth Jan 24, 2012 6:45 AM (in response to Jeff_Coatsworth)Another odd thing - I can repair the "damaged" hyperlinks in the RH topics by selecting the text, right-clicking and removing the hyperlink (even though it's really not one at all), and then re-selecting the hyperlink icon and browsing to the same path and cross-ref marker as the link should have had when it came in from FM, and it works fine.
This is rather odd - one would have thought that if the path was too long for the href= tag to be created in the FM to RH import process, it would have failed when manually constructed too. Hmm...
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2. Re: Conversion of FM Cross-Refs to RH Hyperlinks (<a href="...">) - Maximum Lengths
Willam van Weelden Jan 24, 2012 7:05 AM (in response to Jeff_Coatsworth)You're the FM <-> RH expert here... The only thing I can add is that the maximum length of an URL is limited by either the browser or the web server. But the maximum length is at least several thousand characters AFAIK before the first browser/server chokes. It seems like a FM/RH bug.
Doesn't RH convert FM docs to .mif before importing/linking? Might there be a limit in the .mif file? (Just guessing here, since I haven't got a clue to cause of the problem )
Greet,
Willam
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3. Re: Conversion of FM Cross-Refs to RH Hyperlinks (<a href="...">) - Maximum Lengths
Jeff_Coatsworth Jan 24, 2012 7:28 AM (in response to Willam van Weelden)Phew, "expert", eh? I only wish! I've only been using this suite for a couple of years now ;>)
I think you might be on to something with the MIF connection - I remember seeing an "Importing MIF" dialog/warning screen when the FM books are sucked into RH on earlier versions of RH in TCS 2/2.5 - it doesn't seem to be present in TCS3 anymore. Maybe I'll try an experiment to see what the cross-refs look like in a MIF version of the FM file. I forget if RH can explicitly import a MIF doc - I'll have to check that out the next time I've got RH open.
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4. Re: Conversion of FM Cross-Refs to RH Hyperlinks (<a href="...">) - Maximum Lengths
niregev Jan 25, 2012 11:35 PM (in response to Jeff_Coatsworth)TCS 2.5; RH 8 and FM9 (all with the latest patches)
I am not sure this is related…came across a nightmarish bug in RH.
If there is more than one topic heading with the first two words identical,
then the x-refs in RH are all messed up. Example: “Using Basic Edit for
Campaigns” and “Using Basic Edit for Ads”
In Frame the x-refs are fine. In RH, even though each topic has a unique
ID, the assignments go haywire and you have to manually reassign them. It
took me some time before I realized what was happening and then hours to
correct them.
If FM to RH cannot retain even this fundamental level of integration, what
is the point of the TCS?
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5. Re: Conversion of FM Cross-Refs to RH Hyperlinks (<a href="...">) - Maximum Lengths
Jeff_Coatsworth Jan 26, 2012 7:41 AM (in response to niregev)I'm not seeing that in my project & I've got a whole whack of topics that are virtually the same name - the identical ones (something like "About_this_Module") get numbers appended to the ends to make them unique and many others have names that start the same, but end differently, and they seem to work fine in RH.
Are you seeing the fake "hyperlink" markings in RH like I am? Can you post some code of one that's working & one that's not?
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6. Re: Conversion of FM Cross-Refs to RH Hyperlinks (<a href="...">) - Maximum Lengths
sschertz Jan 26, 2012 11:47 AM (in response to Jeff_Coatsworth)I am running into the same issue as Jeff -- some cross references do not convert and show up in the html with an <a> tag and no href component. It did not occur to me that this might be related to the length of the filenames and paths, as mine are not especially long. I've been fighting with this now for a few days and I've tried all sorts of things - even deleting x-ref markers in frame (breaking the xrefs) and the recreating the xrefs to generate new markers. No luck.
I did get a SLIGHT improvement when I renamed some of my Frame files from the book file and let frame correct the x-refs. This fixed SOME of the bad links, but then BROKE some others. So perhaps it is somehow related to filenames, but I can't figure out how exactly.
The bad links are (so far) only in a project that was originally created with a much earlier version of frame (7x), then converted to 9 last year, and then to 10 this year. A completely new project that was created in 9 and converted to 10 is (so far) working fine. So there may be some clues in that as well.
If anyone can find anything definite, I would love to hear about it. At the moment, I'm so frustrated and I'm wondering how on earth we're going to be able to use this tool to produce any real documentation for our customers. I certainly can't ship what I've produce so far with these broken links.
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7. Re: Conversion of FM Cross-Refs to RH Hyperlinks (<a href="...">) - Maximum Lengths
niregev Jan 29, 2012 11:13 PM (in response to Jeff_Coatsworth)I see that the x-ref numbers are unique and are always correct. For some
reason, even though the topic is in the same chapter, RH adds a hyperlink
to the wrong chapter and in some a link to a topic in a different chapter.
Example of two code snippets in the same topic.
- The hrefs are to different (and wrong) chapters (should be
Campaign Management) but the # x-ref is correct.
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8. Re: Conversion of FM Cross-Refs to RH Hyperlinks (<a href="...">) - Maximum Lengths
Jeff_Coatsworth Jan 30, 2012 7:50 AM (in response to niregev)Did you see any effect (like @sschertz did) when you shortened the path name in FM (and fixed the broken xref links that result)?



