Photoshop 5 is ancient technology. Would really recommend you buy Photoshop Elements 10. It is about $100 and much cheaper than Photoshop CS5.
Would probably have more features than you are used to right now.
That said what OS are you using? If Win7 may be some problems with compatability. Might try XP simulation.
To upload a picture use the camera icon in the reply window.
Are you using "save as"?
Yes, Curt, it IS a dinosaur but is compatible w/ the WinXP in my tower, tho' it
wouldn't load in my Win7 laptop which I would have preferred. Oh well. I
should have said WinXP to begin with and that I did use Save as which worked
some of the time but when Save came up once with no Save as available, I used
that (can't remember if it worked). I tried all I knew to do but should have
kept better notes on what worked and under which circumstances!
Anyway, in addition to the inconsistent saving of images, can you help me
understand why the edited images save as much smaller thumbnails than do the
unedited images (when they DO save)?
I have forgotten what the % designation means and tho' I still have my manual,
a slight brain injury makes it difficult to find and understand about this %
factor. Could this effect the size of saved thumbnails?
5.0 worked well for me back in the 80s when I used it a lot and need it now to
prep images for a proposed web-site. Your suggestion of what to purchase is
helpful but I can't buy new now - thanks anyway. Are you willing to continue
with my dilemma, please?.................................Beth.
PS I found out why I couldn't get the camera icon to work - it was my mistake in
my file and folder choices.
What file format are you trying to use?
If jpeg you can save at various levels of resolution. Is this what you refer to as %?
Honestly, Beth, the best answer really is to get a newer version of Photoshop. Even compared to Windows XP Photoshop version 5.0 is outdated.
You're asking for expert help on a version virtually no one is running any more. I wouldn't get my hopes up. Some of us have old versions installed for testing, but I'm betting very few have one that old. The oldest one I have running for testing is Photoshop 6.0.
The "%" factor you speak of is most likely the zoom level of the image being shown, as compared to its full (100%) size, where one pixel in the image would be put into one pixel on the display. Use Image - Image Size, or find a panel (was Info available in 5.0?) that will show you the actual horizontal and vertical pixel dimensions of your image. Those are what matter for web publishing.
The files are jpeg and are res (300x300 dpi). I'm not at the tower where the
5.0 is loaded but as I recall. the % is printed on the top bar of each image -
25% or 16or so %. Any ideas yet?...................Beth
Yes, like Noel said it is the enlargement of the picture.
Hold down the Ctrl key and press - to make smaller and + to make bigger
Thanks Noel - the res is 300x300dpi. As I explained to Curt in theDiscussion, I
know it's a dinosaur but can't purchase at this time. Also I used 5.0 a lot
some years ago but the reading the manual for answers is a problem now with my
slight brain injury - so here I am hoping someone may just know what I need to
know. Thanks again.
Curt - I will try that to increase % tomorrow. But how do you guess res affects
whether an unedited image saves or not? Thanks for hanging with
The % has no influence on size of file, just enlarges it on screen.
Thanks guys - I got it. I didn't see how res could effect SAVE AS but mentioned
it just in case.
Noel: what res is best for Web use?
Now - I am hoping that the save function is so basic that it hasn't changed much
in revised editions. Have either of you ever encountered the problem #1 in
my original post? Am I, in my ignorance, doing something wrong that causes
Noel: what res is best for Web use?
Beyond that you should strive to try to understand the difference between resolution and pixel count, there's no one answer to your question.
The pixel count (the count of horizontal pixels x vertical pixels that your image contains) is all you need to be concerned wth for web publication. Your web page layout will generally define the pixel count you need.
Perhaps one way to investigate your needs would be to find another site that has a layout that you like, and right-click on the images and look at their properties.
For web use the resolution of the file has no meaning only the pixel dimensions.
It depends on the site your uploading to, some have specific sizes for the photos (pixel dimensions) that is usually listed somewhere on the site, but to give you a rough idea, the size might say something like no bigger than 800x600.
That would mean 800 pixels x 600 pixels (resolution doesn't matter) and the usual file type is jpeg. The 800 is for the long side of the photo.
To see the pixel dimensions of a particular file, go to Image>Image Size and i agree with the others on the % being the viewing (zoom) percentage of the image on the screen and doesn't mean anything as far as saving files. 100% is actual pixels.
If you double click on the zoom tool in the toolbox that % should change to 100% (actual pixels) In the photoshop 5 help, look under Looking at the Work Area-Viewing Images.
Do any of the files your saving have layers (more layers than just the Background layer)?
Thanks R_Kelly - I could have used that cropping tool info today But still can't
get why sometimes an image saves as and sometimes not. Beth
I ... still can't get why sometimes an image saves as and sometimes not
Why are you unable to believe that Photoshop version 5.0 is so ancient that it's buggy and possibly even incompatible with the Windows operating system you're running? It may well have been a well-known bug back then, but no one remembers back that far. Computers, operating systems, and applications have all come a heckuva long way since Windows 98!
Have you applied the Photoshop 5.0.2 update?
Sometimes yes, layers. But sometimes UNedited images don't Save as.
The pro photographer saved all my images at 300dpi so the will probably work
whereever needed, as I understand it.
Photoshop 5 should work fine on windows xp, so that's probably not the problem. (though it wouldn't hurt to apply the 5.02 update if it's not updated)
In photoshop you can go to Help>About Photoshop and the screen would say Version 5.02. (click anywhere on the splash to make it disappear)
the 5.02 update in case you need/what it:
There could be a variety of reasons why the image might not save.
What file format are the original images? (psd,tif jpeg or......)
And from your other post you said you want to save the modified image as a jpeg?
If possible could you list the steps of what you do on an image that won't save?
Do you use File>Save,SaveAs or Save a Copy on the images that won't save?
What exactly happens when you try to save an image and it won't save?
Do you get any kind of error message?
What happens on an image that won't save if you try File>Save a Copy? Does that make any difference?
Thanks for the several ideas and suggestions - I am terminating my enquiry. I
wasn't needing to crop as you thought but will keep that tool in mind.
Noel: Thank you for trying to help me. I have found that if an image doesn't
Save as the first time, I try again. Sometimes a third time but finally it
saves. I am a pragmatist and so I have decided to withdraw my request for
help, because even though I strongly want to understand Why, sometimes it's just
better to get on with it. .....................Beth
R_Kelly: You were the most helpful of the three persons who tried to help me.
You even included pictures in your replies! I guess you understood what I said
about having difficulty with reading and implementing instructions. Being a
pragmatic person, I will stifle my need to understand "Why" and just do what
works- even if I have to try "Save as" three times (usually on UNedited
images). You were never impatient with me and asked very good specific
questions. Thank you very much.
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