Multiuser server and Unicode

The MUS was last updated in version 8.5, seven years and 3 version ago I
think. It's all but dead...

Ziggi wrote:
> Hi All - has MUS been updated to be Unicode compatible?
>
> Rgs,
> Ziggi

I believe the MUS xtra may have been updated to support unicode though

Hey Ziggi,
it's been a while.

Short answer:
no.

Long answer:
Dir 11 uses utf-8. Therefore, the strings that it uses (and sends) can be
read by previous director versions, or mus. If you are performing no
serverside string operations (like accessing characters or words), or if you
are using only ascii characters, then you'll be having no problem with
clients created with the new version. If you do have to process
multilanguage strings, then you'll have to use a dir11 admin movie.

"Ziggi" <ziggi@z_i_g_g_i.pl> wrote in message
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> Hi All - has MUS been updated to be Unicode compatible?
>
> Rgs,
> Ziggi

alchemist wrote:

> Hey Ziggi,

> If you do have to process
> multilanguage strings, then you'll have to use a dir11 admin movie.

Hi Alchemist !

Thank you for your prompt answer - for the time being I even cannot
answer will I need server side text processing as details of the project
are not yet fully clear, so it was kind of "a question in advance" :-)

Anyway - I know you are the expert in multiuser applications - what I
have never fully understood is using admin movies... Would you be so
kind to explain it in simple words? Once upon a time I had to complete
multiuser order and I wrote full-fledged MUS application using MUS-lingo
(MUS scripting). But I have never caught the idea of server-side
Director movies. Can you perhaps briefly give me a clue what is all
about? Would be very helpful! Some example perhaps?

Regard,
Ziggi

An admin movie, or serverside movie, is a movie that is connected to the
server 24/7, and is used for serverside processing. Meaning that all the
server has to do is to forward (without processing) all messages to the
admin movie. In the admin movie, the messages are being processed (lingo),
and then sent (via the server) back to the clients.
In short, director client movies exchange data with the director admin
movie - the mus does nothing more than forwarding the messages.
If, for example the muXtra could handle more than 16 connections, then you'd
be needing no mus - a director movie would be the server. And since, btw, I
am close to completing such an Xtra, drop me a mail soon as you start
working on this.


"Ziggi" <ziggi@z_i_g_g_i.pl> wrote in message
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> alchemist wrote:
>
>> Hey Ziggi,
>
>> If you do have to process multilanguage strings, then you'll have to use
>> a dir11 admin movie.
>
> Hi Alchemist !
>
> Thank you for your prompt answer - for the time being I even cannot answer
> will I need server side text processing as details of the project are not
> yet fully clear, so it was kind of "a question in advance" :-)
>
> Anyway - I know you are the expert in multiuser applications - what I have
> never fully understood is using admin movies... Would you be so kind to
> explain it in simple words? Once upon a time I had to complete multiuser
> order and I wrote full-fledged MUS application using MUS-lingo (MUS
> scripting). But I have never caught the idea of server-side Director
> movies. Can you perhaps briefly give me a clue what is all about? Would be
> very helpful! Some example perhaps?
>
> Regard,
> Ziggi
>

Thanks, Alchemist for this brief info - I understand then you mean
serverside movie connected 24/7 to MUS? And really - this can be
performing enough to handle several dozens of simultaneous connections?
I amd very surprised! How a single director movie can process multiple
simultaneous datastreams forwared from and to MUS? May you comment on
that, please?

And thank you for your new "mu" Xtra - of course I am very interested!

Regards,
Ziggi

alchemist wrote:
> An admin movie, or serverside movie, is a movie that is connected to the
> server 24/7, and is used for serverside processing. Meaning that all the
> server has to do is to forward (without processing) all messages to the
> admin movie. In the admin movie, the messages are being processed (lingo),
> and then sent (via the server) back to the clients.
> In short, director client movies exchange data with the director admin
> movie - the mus does nothing more than forwarding the messages.
> If, for example the muXtra could handle more than 16 connections, then you'd
> be needing no mus - a director movie would be the server. And since, btw, I
> am close to completing such an Xtra, drop me a mail soon as you start
> working on this.

> this can be
> performing enough to handle several dozens of simultaneous connections?
> I amd very surprised!
Don't underestimate director. Though lingo, as a scripting language, may not
be the fastest thing on the planet, director and it's Xtras are c++ compiled
code. So, long as the Xtra is proprly designed, Director, can handle in the
background anything an enterprise server can.
Keep in mind that handling a socket's i/o is often ligher than printing a
word on the screen - much less for the cpu to do.
Btw, MUS is slower than director - it's lingo engine comes from dir8, I
believe, and in dir 8.5 several speed improvements were introduced.
Now, for the admin movie in particular, you have just one socket connected,
so, just one data stream.

> And thank you for your new "mu" Xtra - of course I am very interested!
It's not an mu Xtra. It is, amongst many other things, a socket Xtra. You
can create any kind of tcp/udp/raw server you wish with it. And, since the
Xtra also supports the mu protocol, one of them can be an mu server.
> ...to handle several dozens of simultaneous connections?
and we are talking about thousands or even tens of thousands connections.

you can have a look at:
http://xtrema.rtr.gr/beta/xHttpServer.rar
http://xtrema.rtr.gr/beta/xProxy.zip
to get an idea.



"Ziggi" <ziggi@z_i_g_g_i.pl> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks, Alchemist for this brief info - I understand then you mean
> serverside movie connected 24/7 to MUS? And really - this can be
> performing enough to handle several dozens of simultaneous connections?
> I amd very surprised! How a single director movie can process multiple
> simultaneous datastreams forwared from and to MUS? May you comment on
> that, please?
>
> And thank you for your new "mu" Xtra - of course I am very interested!
>
> Regards,
> Ziggi
>
> alchemist wrote:
>> An admin movie, or serverside movie, is a movie that is connected to the
>> server 24/7, and is used for serverside processing. Meaning that all the
>> server has to do is to forward (without processing) all messages to the
>> admin movie. In the admin movie, the messages are being processed
>> (lingo), and then sent (via the server) back to the clients.
>> In short, director client movies exchange data with the director admin
>> movie - the mus does nothing more than forwarding the messages.
>> If, for example the muXtra could handle more than 16 connections, then
>> you'd be needing no mus - a director movie would be the server. And
>> since, btw, I am close to completing such an Xtra, drop me a mail soon as
>> you start working on this.

> and we are talking about thousands or even tens of thousands connections.

Chapeau bas !!!

Best regards,
Ziggi