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1. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
John T Smith Mar 8, 2012 1:27 PM (in response to erikmichael1)These links may (or may not) help
Premiere Export Formats http://help.adobe.com/en_US/mediaencoder/cs/using/WS725e431141e7ba651e63e3d1267818bc51-800 0.html
CS5 Encore Files & Formats http://forums.adobe.com/message/1901666
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/encore/cs/using/WS5C9E1CF8-B5BC-436f-89D3-61DDC02A2C47a.html
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2. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
erikmichael1 Mar 8, 2012 1:32 PM (in response to John T Smith)thank you for the links. I did find those from searching the forums, and according to those format lists, I am creating a valid file.. Can't figure out why it won't accept it without retranscode.
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3. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
Stan Jones Mar 8, 2012 1:45 PM (in response to erikmichael1)What are the project settings re size? What are the default transcode settings?
I don't think that should actually matter, but I always wonder about the effect of setting the max rate too low.
Use adobe media encoder to re-transcode one of the files using the preset for MPEG2-Bluray. Then use mediainfo to compare your original and the ame file.
We've had this question before, but I've never been confident we know what the issue is.
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4. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
JSS1138 Mar 8, 2012 1:48 PM (in response to erikmichael1)The first question I'd ask is are you sure you're looking at the Blu-ray Transcode Status? The DVD Transcode Status shows first, and you have to scroll horizontally to see the Blu-ray.
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5. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
erikmichael1 Mar 8, 2012 1:55 PM (in response to JSS1138)yes, I am looking at bluray transcode status, I rearranged the bar so I only see that one.
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6. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
erikmichael1 Mar 8, 2012 2:05 PM (in response to Stan Jones)my project settings are bluray, mpeg2, 1280x720, 59.94, progressive, dolby digital, 20Mbps
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7. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
Stan Jones Mar 8, 2012 2:27 PM (in response to erikmichael1)While the wording implies it is just a default transcode, I always worry about a max rate set lower than the assets. I would test this by increasing to 25 or 30. This rate is audio and video combined, so a rate of 20CBR is, by definition, too high.
But I think it should not matter for anything Encore is not transcoding. I just haven't proven it for myself.
I would also try the experiment I described with ame.
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8. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
erikmichael1 Mar 8, 2012 2:30 PM (in response to Stan Jones)I increased max rate up to 40 and it still didn't change.
I am having AME try a render right now, will compare when it finishes. Thank you
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9. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
erikmichael1 Mar 8, 2012 3:09 PM (in response to erikmichael1)alright, AME finished. I pulled the file in, it did work.
Here's the differences I can see:
Episode vs AME
5.99GB - 4.00GB
20Mbps - 13.3Mbps Variable
Commercial Name: Episode-unlisted, AME-HDV 720P
Format Settings, GOP: Episode-Unlisted, AME-M=3, N=15
Bits/(Pixel*Frame): Episode-0.348, AME-0.232
Stream Size: Episode-5.75GB 96% , AME-3.84GB 96%
(On a side note: Adobe Media Encoder appears to be much better than when I first used it. Surprisingly, Episode Engine on our 2x2.66 6core xeon with 14GB of ram took about 55 minutes to render that file. AME took about 28. Thats pretty interesting to me.. Used EE for a few years now, don't normally see things beat it by that much. I'll need to do some testing with watch folders and other presets, if AME continues to show it up like that, I may not hesitate toooo much in dropping EE.)
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10. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
Stan Jones Mar 8, 2012 6:23 PM (in response to erikmichael1)Thanks for reporting your results. AME has improved from earlier versions.
I would do a further test, using only shorter sections if you can pull them easily: change the AME settings to 20cbr.
Consider posting screen shots of the tree view from mediainfo for each.
Or at least report the video and audio lengths and any differences in audio.
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11. Re: Encore, Bluray and Episode Engine
SupersoulVP Mar 14, 2012 1:12 PM (in response to erikmichael1)Hey Erik. That'd be great if you could figured out how to make a file out of Episode that Encore doesn't want to re-transcode. None of the tests I have done out of Episode Pro (v6.1.1) have produced a dvd OR blu-ray file that Encore likes. There is a new 6.2.2 update that just came out that I have not tested, but the Release Notes don't directly mention this issue.
I don't tend to use AME for any of my encoding. Compressor (v3.5.3) makes a great looking .264 file that Encore likes for blu-rays, and After Effects makes a near perfect .m2v for dvd's.




