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1. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
dtedone1 Mar 13, 2012 8:06 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)I really dont think you should be so self concratulating I have come back to DPS after using the pre-release version last year, and yes it has the potential to be a good system, but at the moment its a mess. The way the latest release has been handled is typical
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2. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Johannes Eckert Mar 13, 2012 8:27 AM (in response to dtedone1)I am not part of the DPS team ,-)
It is a total mess. but I get used to right at the moment. It is good to see that there are things happening, like favorites and sharing to facebook. These were features requested soooo often.
—Johannes
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3. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Frans van der Geest Mar 13, 2012 9:39 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)For one, the new Scrollable Frame option does not work correctly: you can slide up from the bottom, but you can not slide down again (sliding from the left/right side does still work)...
And pasted into frames are cut off and have some parts not showing.
In other words: new feature, nice idea, but is not usable at this moment.
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4. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Johannes Eckert Mar 13, 2012 10:13 AM (in response to Frans van der Geest)for the other, a slideshow is acting differently than before: Fade over now
shows a white flash between transiations (thats the background color, it
first fades out then in, not over).
but that is only for the first time the MSO is playing. for the second play
everything goes as before.
—Johannes
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5. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Bob Bringhurst Mar 13, 2012 10:15 AM (in response to Frans van der Geest)Did you test this using the desktop viewer or the iPad viewer? My experience is that I can create pull tabs on all sides exactly as designed when previewed on the custom iPad viewer, but these same effects are not working properly on the desktop viewer. I'll let you know if I find out anything.
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6. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Frans van der Geest Mar 13, 2012 10:37 AM (in response to Bob Bringhurst)Ah yes Bob, on desktop viewer, have not yet uploaded to builder as I'm not sure the current iPad viewer can handle sprint 19 builds...
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7. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Johannes Eckert Mar 13, 2012 12:13 PM (in response to Bob Bringhurst)i saw different slideshow behaviour using preview on device. it is hard to explain, so I made a video:
I did not get this folio to show up via the cloud.
The behaviour is the same for static folios as with PDF folios.
The broken image however, only appeared when using PDF folios.
Oh, I have to tell that I am displaying a retina sized layout on an iPad1 here.
—Johannes
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8. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Johannes Eckert Mar 14, 2012 4:05 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)am I the only one having this MSO behaviour?
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9. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Martin Lér Mar 14, 2012 5:16 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)i'll try this afternoon, i hope. Will let you know.
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10. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Tomek Kuczborski Mar 14, 2012 6:38 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)No, I have tested it with same results.
BTW, you did not see your exported folio because of the size, I think. 2048x1536 is available only to New iPad. When I exported it it was showing in Folio Producer, but did not appear in my Content Viewer.
I finally tested a 1024x768 file with 2048x1536 slide show. Background (tested white and black) was blinking always during first run, and never later.
Tomek
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11. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Johannes Eckert Mar 14, 2012 6:52 AM (in response to Tomek Kuczborski)Is there no way to preview retina content through the servers with an "old
iPad"?
my retina sized folio does show up on my android viewer (although I cannot
view it because of a PDF stack).
—Johannes
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12. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Tomek Kuczborski Mar 14, 2012 6:57 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)You need 2 more days and EUR2000 to see it freely;-)
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13. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Martin Lér Mar 14, 2012 7:07 AM (in response to Martin Lér)Martin Lér wrote:
i'll try this afternoon, i hope. Will let you know.
Hm, seems that it will take some time... But maybe Johannes or Tomek can help me . Recetly (week ago) we came to second year of our iOS development program. So i recreated our developer and distribution certificate. Today i've created new version of Adobe Content Viewer with Viewer Builder, uploaded to Testflightapp.com and... i can't install it to our iPads. Installation will start, but before end it will stop with error, that app can't be installed now (very unspecific error). I think that it can have something to do with new certificate, but i'm not iOS dev guru, so i'm now little bit lost. From my understanding i don't need to recreate provision profiles, so i'm using old ones. Anyone some idea? Thanks a lot!
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14. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Tomek Kuczborski Mar 14, 2012 7:18 AM (in response to Martin Lér)Martin, did you try to install the Content Viewer via iTunes?
I did not have any problems with that, and I used same certs and mobileprovision as last time.
Tomek
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15. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Martin Lér Mar 14, 2012 7:20 AM (in response to Tomek Kuczborski)Tomek, problem will be not with Viewer, but with my certs. So my question is more iOS-development related (i know that this is not best place
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16. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Johannes Eckert Mar 14, 2012 7:39 AM (in response to Martin Lér)Martin, after your developer certifictate expired and you renewed it, i am
pretty sure you also need to re-create your mobileprovision files, because
they reference the certificate.
i don't know about testflightapp, I always use my own webserver for easy
installing (it is not that complicated)
—Johannes
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17. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Martin Lér Mar 14, 2012 7:54 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)Yeah, i forgot abour referencing dev certificate in mobileprovision, in meantime i checked it and recreated mobilprovi. Now it works and i can test error .
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18. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Martin Lér Mar 14, 2012 8:27 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)Johannes, tools v19, standard iPad resolution 1024x768, uploaded to iPad by wire and by cloud, can't replicate "flashing", transition is always correct.
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19. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Tomek Kuczborski Mar 14, 2012 4:14 PM (in response to Johannes Eckert)OK. I have tested Johannes' bug on three MSOs made from scratch.
The bug is persistent, it appeared in all three MSO.s. On the first
run, every change of state produces background blink (Tested with
white, black and pink bckgnd). In one case, I had also incomplete
renderening of some states, with background showing from beneath.
This incomplete rendering did not disappear after first run.
All folios were tested both as uploaded and via USB.
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20. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Johannes Eckert Mar 14, 2012 5:35 PM (in response to Tomek Kuczborski)What resolution are you using, Tomasz? 1024 or 2048?
—Johannes
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21. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Tomek Kuczborski Mar 14, 2012 11:49 PM (in response to Johannes Eckert)Both. As a matter of fact I also tested one MSO with light grey letters on dark background ( no images, just indesign text and fill), and the effect/bug was just the same.
Tomek
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22. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Johannes Eckert Mar 15, 2012 2:59 AM (in response to Tomek Kuczborski)Yes, I see this happenning with all kinds of MSOs as well. and it always
fades into the background first and then fades into the next state.
Why is martin having different experiences?
Can an engineer confirm this issue, or are we the only one?
—Johannes
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23. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Matt_TJP_01 Mar 16, 2012 7:54 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)just curious... is the problem occurring on both iPad 1 and iPad 2?
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24. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Tomek Kuczborski Mar 16, 2012 7:58 AM (in response to Matt_TJP_01)In my case – iPad2
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25. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Johannes Eckert Mar 16, 2012 8:01 AM (in response to Matt_TJP_01)For me on iPad1
(mobil gesendet)
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26. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Matt_TJP_01 Mar 16, 2012 10:18 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)Sorry guys... I can't speak directly to your issue because i'm waiting for the latest iPad viewer to be released before I start working with v19 tools.
However, I did see a similar issue in v18 with a html content page that was set to play 5 short animations. You would swipe to go from one animation to the next, but it would flash white the same as I see in your video example. If you would swipe through a second time there was no white flashing. We saw the same bug on both iPad 1 and 2.
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27. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
jblenda Mar 21, 2012 10:57 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)Hello Johannes and Tomaz any of you found a workaround for the fade in MSO behavior? I'm using several MSO's to set elements on top of ther interactives and those behind are revealed the first time the MSO plays...
Anyone from Adobe can confirm this bug?
Thank you.
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28. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
Johannes Eckert Mar 21, 2012 4:03 PM (in response to jblenda)I think this was fixed with the 1.9.1 release of the producer tools.slide
shows are working for me now.
(mobil gesendet)
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29. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
T Clemente Mar 23, 2012 12:59 PM (in response to Johannes Eckert)I am also experiencing some erratic behavior from sideshow MSO's.
I am using v19 Tools, Builder, and Content Viewer on both the iPad2 and iPad3.
I can confirm the flash to white between the initial run through of the slides. Also I have noticed that on Desktop viewer (have yet to test on v19 Content Viewer on iPad2 / 3) the state that is selected in the layout .indd file flashes before showing the desired initial state of the MSO sideshow.
So to be clear. If I create a MSO sideshow and have any state of that MSO selected in the Object States palette that is NOT the intended inital state, the selected state will appear quickly then revert to to the desired initial state when previewed.
Will test on iPad to see if this behavior remains across viewer types.
Good news is this is an easy fix by simply making sure to have the initial state selected prior to uploading to producer although this would be a new best practice.
Any others experiencing the MSO slideshow "jump"?
-Tony C
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30. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
mpm_iPad Mar 28, 2012 2:39 AM (in response to Johannes Eckert)Unfortunately I still get this specific MSO behavior (fade in and out from background when changing states) in the 19.1 version of the producer tools.
Very annoying thing. I experimented with the slideshow settings in overly creator, but the result is the same.
In my desktop viewer all seems fine, but not in the generated Adobe Viewer.
Has anyone further tips regarding this behavior? Is downgrading to v18 an option?
Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
nils
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31. Re: V19 release: Discussion and Opinion
iDigital Publishers Apr 2, 2012 8:48 PM (in response to mpm_iPad)@mpm_iPad and Everyone above with the MSO problem in v19
How are you previewing the MSO(slideshow)? Are you previewing using the preview on device option directly from InDesign? If yes, I get the same error and looks like this is a bug to me or something that's specific to the iOS webkit rendering or something that Adobe needs to fix it with Apple.
But the preview on the newly custom built Adobe content viewer works fine as expected and shouldn't be a problem on live app. I have tested and confirmed by building a viewer app.
So basically, you need to login to the Adobe Content Viewer on your iPad and download the folio and preview. So, to avoid any unexpected MSO behaviour, the best work around is to login, download and preview and not preview directly from InDesign. Hope this helps :-)





