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1. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
Stan Jones Mar 21, 2012 6:20 PM (in response to Tank2256789qwwe)Look here:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/1901666#1901666
It confirms that you cannot use 720 29.97 for an Encore BD compliant project.
I'm not sure what to suggest; let's see what someone else has to say about conversion.
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2. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
JSS1138 Mar 21, 2012 10:26 PM (in response to Tank2256789qwwe)1. Shooting at 720p/30
2. Reshoot at 720p/60
3. Only at 24p or 60p (and if you go to 1080, then only 30i or 24p)
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3. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
Schmidt_127_New Mar 22, 2012 6:55 AM (in response to Tank2256789qwwe)Thank you very much for the replies....I appreciate the feedback and help.
If reshooting is not an option (football game).....what is your professional opinion on how to salvage the best quality to BD.
Which selection of Frame Rate will make the best conversion.
Thanks,
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4. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
Stan Jones Mar 22, 2012 8:41 AM (in response to Schmidt_127_New)Someone may have an opinion, but a frequent recommendation is to test. I would set a relatively short representative sample, and export it in several flavors. I would use a relatively high cbr bitrate just to eliminate that as a major factor. Put each on its own timeline in Encore. See whether Encore wants to retranscode them, burn to disk, and see how they look.
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5. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
JSS1138 Mar 22, 2012 10:05 AM (in response to Schmidt_127_New)If reshoot isn't an option, then your only real choice will be to convert he 30p into 60p. This will essentially show each frame twice.
It won't look good.
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6. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
Stan Jones Mar 22, 2012 10:39 AM (in response to JSS1138)Jim, curious about a conversion to 23.976, since I know you have looked at this in the past, and this is action footage (which I assume is more difficult).
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7. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
JSS1138 Mar 22, 2012 10:41 AM (in response to Stan Jones)I wouldn't be inclined to go that way, myself.
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8. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
Schmidt_127_New Mar 24, 2012 2:42 PM (in response to Tank2256789qwwe)Thank you to everyone for your input.
I will check try those options.
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9. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
Jim Curtis Mar 26, 2012 8:30 AM (in response to JSS1138)
If reshoot isn't an option, then your only real choice will be to convert he 30p into 60p. This will essentially show each frame twice.It won't look good.
60p would show each frame twice, but they'd be half as long, and therefore indistinguishable from 30 frames per second diplayed one time each.
But, that's beside the point. I can export BR h.264 29.97p. I don't know why you can't, Tank. Do you have Match Soure Attributes selected?
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10. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
JSS1138 Mar 26, 2012 8:55 AM (in response to Jim Curtis)I can export BR h.264 29.97p.
I question that ability, since 720p/30 is not part of the Blu-ray spec. Further, 5.0 at least does not allow 270p/30 when using a Blu-ray export option.
But even if you could somehow get it exported, Encore wont (or at least shouldn't, if it's standards compliant) burn it to disk "as is" since, again, 720p/30 is not part of the Blu-ray spec.
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11. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
Jim Curtis Mar 26, 2012 9:18 AM (in response to JSS1138)Whoops, my source is 1080. Sorry about that.
Why not just choose the 59.94 frame rate?
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12. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
Schmidt_127_New Mar 26, 2012 10:00 AM (in response to Tank2256789qwwe)Jim,
I did try the match Source attibutes also.....It changed all of the filter options to the correct settings i believe but the frame rate was put to 24fps.
So i tried a render to 24fps and the faster the motion the more "dual image" blur i got.
I will try the 59.94 fps choice tonight. The 24 fps is really not useable. Hopefully 59.94 will be better.
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13. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
JSS1138 Mar 26, 2012 10:56 AM (in response to Jim Curtis)Whoops, my source is 1080.
I still question that. At any resolution, 30p is not part of the Blu-ray spec. 30 fps must be interlaced to go onto Blu-ray.
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14. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
Schmidt_127_New Mar 29, 2012 7:19 AM (in response to Tank2256789qwwe)The 59.594 render worked the best. There is still a slight blur/problem in parts of the fast motion but considerably better than the 24fps that I tried before.
Thanks
Mike
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15. Re: Matching Frame Rate for a BD Burn
Stan Jones Mar 29, 2012 9:06 AM (in response to Schmidt_127_New)Thanks for reporting.




