8 Replies Latest reply: Apr 1, 2012 10:42 AM by Melissa Retter RSS

    Mix Pasting - Different in CS5?

    Melissa Retter Community Member

      Hi again,

       

      Still getting the hang of the new program, and I notice that the mix pasting function has a very different dialog box when I perform the action in the new CS5.5 than Au 3.  Though I'm hoping the function still works just as well as it did in Au 3 and I simply don't know how to make it work yet.  Can I still replace audio (say, a low frequency block selected with the marquee tool) instead of only overlap it using mix paste, or does a different function do that now instead of mix paste?  I don't even see an option to choose between "replace", "overlap", or "insert" in Au CS5.5's mix paste options.  Thanks so much for the help!

        • 1. Re: Mix Pasting - Different in CS5?
          ryclark Community Member

          The new Mix Paste options allow you more control over  how the Mix part of the paste is done. To replicate the old Replace function you just set the mix level of Existing to 0 and leave the Copied audio at 100. For Overlap you can now adjust the relative levels of the Copied and Existing audio using the sliders. For Inserting audio use the simple Paste option (Ctrl=V) in the Edit menu.

          • 2. Re: Mix Pasting - Different in CS5?
            Melissa Retter Community Member

            Hi and thanks for the reply.  When I try this, frustratingly if I'm using marquee select to only replace a small portion of the frequencies (e.g. a square of audio at the bottom of the spectrogram from 0 to 500Hz), when I use mix paste to try to replace a patch of low frequency audio from one area of my recording to another, instead of just replacing what is selected by the marquee select at the bottom of the frequency range it only pastes that low frequency portion completely eliminating everything of a higher frequeny above the replaced area leaving a black whole with no sound above the newly replaced portion.  Why might this be happening you think?  I hope there's something somewhere that can get this problem fixed!

             

            Here's a screenshot of my problem. http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/9858/auscreen.jpg

             

            Thank you so much,

             

            ~Tayler

            • 3. Re: Mix Pasting - Different in CS5?
              ryclark Community Member

              That's probably because you have got Existing Audio set to 0. Leave it at 100 and your Copied audio should be added to the original. If you want it to replace just the low frequency part I suspect that you will have to delete the existing low frequency portion first.

              • 4. Re: Mix Pasting - Different in CS5?
                Melissa Retter Community Member

                Ah that does indeed work, thanks!  Though, it was so handy in Au3 when you could tell the program to replace any patch of audio anywhere without having to delete set portions for replacing first.  Deleting the portions first often requires using the marquee box as a guide to try and accurately mix paste a portion of audio that does not have the bottom of the frame as a guide.  Say if I'm trying to get rid of a flaw in the recording that's not a click, but more like a whistle, trying to delete that portion and copy a clean patch from close by while still having all sides of that box match up with the hole to avoid creating black gaps around where the repair was made can be very time consuming.  Just placing the time cursor and having the desired replacement audio get rid of what ever was to the right of it in Au3 was very convenient, and an action I perform pretty much every time I use the program.  I wish I could find a way to have this same function working in CS5.5, it helps me work much faster!  Until then I'm not sure I can fully make the move over to the new version of Au, I don't know why they would have gotten rid of such a useful feature...

                 

                Thank you for your help!

                • 5. Re: Mix Pasting - Different in CS5?
                  SteveG(AudioMasters) Community Member

                  Melissa Retter wrote:

                   

                  Ah that does indeed work, thanks!  Though, it was so handy in Au3 when you could tell the program to replace any patch of audio anywhere without having to delete set portions for replacing first....   I don't know why they would have gotten rid of such a useful feature...

                   

                  I'm afraid that the answer to this is gloriously simple - it's a bug. It should work just the way it does in the previous version.

                   

                  The other really frustrating thing (for you) is that I'm not yet at liberty to tell you whether or not it's been fixed in the new version being released soon...

                  • 6. Re: Mix Pasting - Different in CS5?
                    Melissa Retter Community Member

                    Ah, good to know!  Well I eagerly await this new version then.  Is there a set (or general) date for its release?  Will it be available as a downloadable update or some such?  I'll cross my fingers for the issue to be fixed.  Thank you very much for sheding some light onto my situation.

                     

                    All the best,

                     

                    ~Melissa

                    • 7. Re: Mix Pasting - Different in CS5?
                      SteveG(AudioMasters) Community Member

                      Melissa Retter wrote:

                      Is there a set (or general) date for its release?  Will it be available as a downloadable update or some such? 

                       

                      Adobe hasn't said exactly what the release date is, but since they've published a sneak preview video of it (see appropriate thread started recently by Durin), you can bet that it's not far off.

                       

                      I have no idea what the distribution arrangements will be, but I'm pretty sure that it will follow the pattern of previous releases. In other words, it's a new version, this time with one heck of a lot of changes - what you see on the sneak preview really isn't very much. And as such, there will be an upgrade pricing structure... which I can't comment on, except to say that if it doesn't include the version before last as qualifying, at the very least, Adobe will have some sort of mutiny on their hands.

                      • 8. Re: Mix Pasting - Different in CS5?
                        Melissa Retter Community Member

                        Thanks for the information Steve.  And I can imagine as such, since one could understand my frustration over purchasing a new product only to never use it over the old version because of a flaw in the software preventing me from utilizing its full funtionality.  I'll just remain hopeful for now that they'll come through without too outrageous of an upgrade cost.  I love Adobe's software, it helps me get work done like no other apps out there.