6 Replies Latest reply: Apr 6, 2012 10:48 AM by davidp158 RSS

    Color densitometer or info palette when editing colors?!?

    davidp158 Community Member

      I am new to Premiere Pro, so forgive me if I have overlooked the obvious, but I can't find any sort of info palette that displays color info when using color correction tools within Premiere Pro. I have searched this forum and the Adobe Help info, but haven't found any info.

       

      Considering that Premiere Pro has such powerful color capabilities, I would expect there is a way to measure changes being made. Coming from a Photoshop background, I rely on the densitometer and info palette for accuracy and repeatability. Although Premiere Pro's video scopes display a lot of info (I wish Photoshop had these!), they are not very precise tools. Having a way to measure actual color values would seem critical when matching color between two different pieces of footage.

       

      One option I found is to use the "Leave Color" color correction tool's eye dropper to select a color, and then view the color values by clicking on the sampled color swatch. This opens up the familiar color dialog box with all sorts of handy color info. If Adobe could include that, why didn't they include a simple densitometer (eye dropper tool) and an info palette that displays color reading?

       

      If such features exist, I hope someone will point them out to me. If they exist in a third party color editing plug-in for Premiere Pro, that would be a very compelling reason to buy it. Any suggestions on this would be most appreciated.

       

      cheers,

      Dave

        • 1. Re: Color densitometer or info palette when editing colors?!?
          davidbeisner2010 Community Member

          I'm not familiar with any automatic tools in PrPro to see exact color representations (i.e., RGB numbers) like you can get with the eyedropper tool in Photoshop (in fact, I don't believe there's really any need to see that information when editing for video... however, when doing CC work, I always have the Vector, YC Waveforrm, and RGB Parade scopes open in my Reference monitor on my second screen. If you don't know how to use those tools, then I would encourage you to sit down with a good video tutorial on color correcting for video such as can be found at www.lynda.com.

          • 2. Re: Color densitometer or info palette when editing colors?!?
            davidp158 Community Member

            David - Thanks for your reply. For my work flow in Photoshop, the densitometer and info palette are "must have" tools for repeatability and accuracy of colors, as well as many, many other uses. I calibrate my monitor and control my environment lighting, but recognize that my eyes and color perception will never be as consistent as a densitometer.

             

            I am certain that Premiere Pro users would benefit greatly from these tools, and find it surprising that Premiere Pro doesn't have them. One obvious example would be matching the look of multiple film sources. Sure, you can make rounds of tweaks and preview them as they transition from one to the next. However, a method to read and compare color values would dramatically speed up that process.

             

            I have started working with Premiere Pro's video scopes, and think these would be wonderful tools to work with in Photoshop. BTW, Jeff Sengstack has a good tutorial on the lynda.com web site. However, watching his videos, its quite apparent that he resorts to a lot of trial and error that would often be minimized with the ability to read color values.

            • 3. Re: Color densitometer or info palette when editing colors?!?
              davidbeisner2010 Community Member

              Yeah, there are some good points there regarding specificity of color values. My one thought, though, would be that due to the nature of the video signal, it may be impossible for that to work all the time, and if you adjusted one specific color to directly match, you might not get a consistent change of all color values, hence the need for the detailed work with the scopes.

              • 4. Re: Color densitometer or info palette when editing colors?!?
                davidp158 Community Member

                David - I totally agree that the nature of video is a "moving target" for reading colors. I really like the scopes for anaylizing colors. Althought they aren't intuitive for a Photoshop jockey like me, now that I see how they work, I think they would be a powerful addition to Photoshop.

                 

                Part of my quandary is my bias towards what I'm comfortable with in Photoshop, and expecting some of the same tools and work flow in Premiere Pro. CS5 After Effects has a densitometer and info palette just like Photoshop, so I'm surprised that it hasn't been implemented in Premiere Pro. Oh well, I'll just have to adapt my work flow to the tools available.

                 

                thanks for your posts

                • 6. Re: Color densitometer or info palette when editing colors?!?
                  davidp158 Community Member

                  Thanks for the suggestion, Todd. I'll do this.