5 Replies Latest reply: Apr 26, 2012 11:51 AM by Neil Wilkes RSS

    Encore CS 6 audio formats supported question

    rexpost Community Member

      I heard that DTS-HDMA will be supported...I like that, but unless an encoder is included with media encoder,

      I'm sure I'll have to shell out big bugs for surround encoding.

       

      Does Encore CS 6 support pcm uncompressed surround sound now, as an alternative?

        • 1. Re: Encore CS 6 audio formats supported question
          Neil Wilkes CommunityMVP

          From everything I have read so far, I wager the answer is "no", which considering it is the only mandatory lossless surround format in Blu-Ray is really quite incomprehensible to me.

          As far as encoders go, it is not that expensive.

          You can get the DTS-HD MAS system (including the streamplayer) from DTS for under $1500 - consider the Dolby True HD alternative at almost $10,000 for the full kit including tools.

          The DTS-HD MAS suite is awesome, includes user set downmixing & also core audio (which is the mandatory component of the DTS-HD stream in the same way the buried/hidden AC3 stream is the mandatory component of Dolby True HD)

           

          Still, I look at this as a large step in the right direction, myself.

          • 2. Re: Encore CS 6 audio formats supported question
            rexpost Community Member

            that is a good price.

             

            I like the price of Minnetonka DTS-HD encoder even better though

             

            http://www.dtshdforcompressor.com/

             

            $ 249 (works with apple compressor)

             

            would have been nice to have something similar for media encoder.

            • 3. Re: Encore CS 6 audio formats supported question
              Neil Wilkes CommunityMVP

              But does the Minnetonka FCP plugin do all the stuff the DTS one does, and does it also include the all-important streamplayer?

              The MAS version literally does everything - BD (primary & secondary), DVD, DTS-CD & digital delivery in all variants including DTS-HD MAS, DTS-HD High Resolution, DTS-ES (discrete & matrixed), DTS9624, DTS Core original. All the core audio variants are much improved over any other encoder out there - I have 4 in all, and in order of greatest to least they run like this:

              1 - DTS-HD MAS. Audibly better than any of the 3 following, and comes complete with a full set of Stream Tools for editing an encoded fileset.

              2 - DTS Pro Series, which in it's turn is better than the 2 following

              3 - Nuendo DTS Encoder - sadly obsolete & no longer supported although t here is a flawed UniCode version for N5 that cannot manage DTS-CD export (you get white noise) but it doeas a good job of DTS-DVD encoding to core audio only, no extensions

              4 - Minnetonka Audio DTS-DVD encoder - the oldest of the lot, and it sounds like it too.

               

              The DTS version comes in 2 flavours - MAS & SAS, although the SAS does not do Master Audio.

              See http://www.dts.com/professionals/audio-software/dts-hd-master-audio-suite/overview.aspx for full details.

               

              Finally, given how Encore only supports passthrough mode, you cannot over-estimatethe importance of the StreamPlayer as this allows you to proof the encoded file before wasting expensive blank discs - and it allows you to do this with a quicktime video file as well. It also decodes any DTS stream back to PCM.........

              • 4. Re: Encore CS 6 audio formats supported question
                rexpost Community Member

                Neil, it does do the embedded backward compatible core in the DTSHD-MA encoding.

                 

                also includes a playback decoder.

                 

                the caveat is that you have to have compressor 3.

                • 5. Re: Encore CS 6 audio formats supported question
                  Neil Wilkes CommunityMVP

                  Good news on the core support - how deep?

                  Does it do secondary audio, DTS-DVD and all the MAS variants like DTS-HD HR?

                  Also, a playback decoder is a different animal altogether - the DTS-HD StreamPlayer will take a file or a list of files & decode back to PCM files - this is in addition to playback decoding.

                   

                  Sounds good, but tied to FCP so no good for me.

                  Good luck with it - seems a bargain.