34 Replies Latest reply on May 24, 2012 8:09 AM by angelalien548

    Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?

    angelalien548 Newcomer

      I'm thinking about installing Adobe Premiere Pro v2 on an Asus Eee PC netbook, its specs are: Atom CPU, ~2 GB RAM, 160 GB HDD, GMA video, netbook was purchased in late Jan. 2010 from the local Best Buy store, brand-new, so no Sandy Bridge in this one, Oh, and it runs XP_sp3. I'm already running Adobe Photoshop CS2 on it currently, Photoshop runs, executes with no problems whatsoever. And as far as I understand, I can open photoshop files in premiere and edit them in photoshop, but how exactly does this work?


      Can you edit a scene from a move in this way (like copy/paste another person/article of clothing from another photo/move scene onto the scene you're editing like you do when editing in photoshop only)?


      Will my netbook (it's about 10 - 11 inch display) run premiere adequately, and let me open photoshop files in premiere to edit them in photoshop?


      Does photoshop have to be running at same time as premiere in order to do this?



      Thanks in advance.



      EDIT -  screen display resolution only goes up to 1024x600. If I try to run it at 1024x768, it freezes for a sec or so, then switches right back to 1024x600 automatically. So I'm thinking of maybe running Photoshop and Premiere in a XP guest Virtual machine on my i3 370M CPU @ ~2 GHz,, 4 GB RAM, 500 GB HDD, 1 GB Nvidia GPU Acer laptop since its host OS is Windows 7 Home Premium, just so I can run/use Premium to edit my movies and burn them onto DVD for people to watch on their home TV's from a TV-connected DVD player - so will this be adequate instead of the netbook for running Premiere?


      The guest XP can be set up to use 3D acceleration from the VM console.


      But how will I get my content out of the guest VM (VMWare Player v3) and onto DVD?

        • 2. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
          Harm Millaard Mythic

          Forget about it on an underspecced, underpowered system like that and in the wrong forum. This is for CS5+

          • 3. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
            angelalien548 Newcomer

            Oh, I did not know. I couldn't find the forum for the older versions of premiere. Do I have to copy/paste my questons there and cross-post (which may be against the rules here)?

            • 4. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
              Jeff Bellune Rockstar

              I moved your topic.  You're in the proper forum now.



              • 5. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                angelalien548 Newcomer

                Thanks, Jeff. Now do you think others will answer my question in my original post about Premiere Pro v2?

                • 6. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                  Jeff Bellune Rockstar

                  Your netbook is definitely not a good system for trying to run Premiere Pro 2.0.  Your VM might work, but the only way to find out is for you to try it.  It's not very likely that anyone will have that setup, even if you find someone who still has version 2.



                  • 7. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                    John T Smith Legend

                    >how will I get my content out of the guest VM (VMWare Player v3) and onto DVD?


                    Version 2 included integrated DVD creation... not very complex, but a playable DVD


                    For easy searching, download the product user guide PDF(s)


                    The individual CS5 pages also have links to the earlier user guide pages - I don't know if the links go all the way back to v2


                    CS5 User Guides - online and PDF (right click PDF link to save PDF to your hard drive)

                    http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2010/08/help-documents-for-creative-suite-5-pdf -and-html.html


                    ADDED - http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/archived_content.html


                    The latest I could find was CS3... you may want to check eBay for a book to tell you about v2

                    • 8. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                      angelalien548 Newcomer

                      Thanks, John. Either ebay, half.com, amazon, or the local Barnes & Noble store (they'll have to order it/ship it to store for pickup).

                      • 9. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                        angelalien548 Newcomer

                        Why can't I edit my own posts anymore? Was this just disabled by the mods, or what?


                        Could you please help me?





                        Just wanted to tell you guys that I did a google search for the Premiere v2 user guide, came up empty. Fact, is, when I began using my first photoshop (CS) 5 years ago, I didn't use its user guide back then, I just went to the local Barnes & Noble store and got the Classroom in a book, so looks like I'll do the same thing here. That book explained everything, gave me step-by-step how to's, the works.

                        • 10. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                          John T Smith Legend

                          When someone, anyone, replies to a post, the author may no longer make changes to that post, it is switched to read only status


                          Since v2 is so old, you may have a really hard time finding a book for that version... check used book stores


                          Added... http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-Classroom-Book/dp/0321385519

                          • 11. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                            Ann Bens Mythic

                            You will find Pro2 user guide under F1 within Pro2.

                            • 12. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                              angelalien548 Newcomer

                              Thanks, guys. I installed Premire Pro in an XP Virtual Machine (VMWare Player) running at 3D acceleration, ~1 GB RAM, ~40 GB VHD, VM uses the host machine's physical DVD drive (although I realize Premiere Pro v2 cannot burn a self-created/edited movie onto a DL DVD, but it can burn it to a SL DVD) on a Windows 7 host PC, running at i3 370M CPU @ 2.x GHz, 4 GB RAM, NVidia video @ 1 GB VRAM, 500 GB HDD (~220 free HDD space.), and I bought a Premiere Pro v2 Classroom in a book from Barnes & Noble's online used book store yesterday for under $7.


                              I wonder - is it possible to edit a scene from a movie (change appearance of someone's clothes via layer addition, cut/paste another person, change hair/eye color etc) into the sene that was not in the original movie's scene using Premiere Pro v2?


                              I'm not sure, but I think that the way you can edit a movie scene in premiere pro v2 is open that file from photoshop, into premieire pro, and edit that scene in photoshop, but I'm not too sure - help, please?


                              I also have Photoshop CS2, which I'll likely install on this same XP VM along with Premiere pro, but as the VM's RAM is only allocated to 1 GB out of the host machine's 4 GB, would I be overtaxing the VM if I was editing a couple of scenes while running both photoshop and premiere pro at the same time in this VM?


                              How much RAM does it take to do this in XP without overtaxing the computer (whether its a VM PC or a host PC)?

                              • 13. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                John T Smith Legend

                                I think that is call rotoscoping, if you want to Google for information


                                I have never done such, so have no idea what is involved

                                • 14. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                  angelalien548 Newcomer

                                  I'd like to import some .VOB movie files into Premier Pro, googled and found a forum where someone mentioned avisynth and DGIIndex, and they were referred to Sourceforge to d/l it. and the latest d/l is about 2009 or so, don't know if I should d/l this one, one of the earlier ones, or if I should keep googling b/c I'm not sure if the current versions on sourceforge will work on Premiere Pro v2, or if I even need a version of avisynth or DGIndex for Premiere Pro v2 or not?


                                  If so, link, please?


                                  Also, I know nothing about how to use avissynth or DGIndex, so will I have to buy a book for each of these plug-ins?


                                  Like I said before, I already odererd the Classroom in a Book for Premiere Pro v2 a few days ago, and I'm waiting for it to arrive at our house.



                                  Oh, and will I need both avisynth and DGIndex to import .Vob files into Premiere Pro v2?


                                  If so, which do I use first?





                                  EDIT -  I just d/l the Premiere AVS Plugin v1.95 - is that all I'll need?

                                  • 15. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                    John T Smith Legend

                                    VOB is the form of MPEG2 that goes on a DVD... and I can't remember if PPro2 will import VOB/MPG or not


                                    If not, there are programs which convert VOB/MPG to DV AVI


                                    Do some reading at these links... some free, some for $$, to find a converter


                                    Tools to Convert to DV-AVI http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415317

                                    Convert http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_convert_my_files%3F


                                    Convert your files to DV-AVI Type II with 48KHz 16-bit Audio

                                    As well as the links just above, use Google to find conversion software


                                    I have NOT used the products below, I only forward due to other mentions... so YMMV and all the usual disclaimers... check the links and read to find out if one of the products listed below will rip or convert the files you have to something you need for editing




                                    http://www.magix.com/us/movie-edit-pro/ plus $5 Ship



                                    http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html Converter


                                    http://www.deskshare.com/dmc.aspx Digital Media Converter





                                    http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html Multi-Converter <-- supposed to be very good


                                    http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/ or http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/

                                    http://www.flaskmpeg.net/download.php Mpeg to AVI Converter

                                    http://www.squared5.com/ MPEG Streamclip Converter

                                    http://www.virtualdub.org/ Mpeg to AVI Converter



                                    • 16. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                      angelalien548 Newcomer

                                      Ok, I just installed Premiere in an XP Virtual machine that uses 3D acceleration, a 40 GB virtual hard disk, with 2 GB RAM allocated to this virtual machine. I started up Premiere and it says it detects a single processor, and I tried importing some still .PSD images into the new project that I created, but Premiere was running even slower than molasses. the photoshop CS2 that I also installed on this virtual machine was also running slower than molasses, the host machine is running Windows 7, has 4 GB RAM max, a 500 GB HDD, 3D video card, and a Core i3 370 M processor - why was photoshop and premiere running so slow with 2 GB RAM allocated to this virtual machine?


                                      I also have another laptop, a Dell M1530 with a Core Duo processor @ 2 GHz, 256 MB Nvidia 8500M video card, 4 GB max RAM, a 300 GB HDD, and runs XP (32-bit) natively - how do you guys think premiere will run in this computer?


                                      Alao, I just got the Premiere Pro v2 Classroom in a Book from Barnes & Noble's online Used Book Store, it arrived at our house yesterday. It has full-color photos in it included in the step by step lessons, once I started leafing thru it, I wanted to dive in and start creating my first DVD movie, I could'nt put the book down.


                                      EDIT - Premiere runs beautifully in my Dell M1530.

                                      • 17. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                        angelalien548 Newcomer

                                        Guys, gals, I'm back. I have a bunch of home movies (videos) saved as .VOB files on DVD's, and I would like to edit them in Photoshop CS2 but I'm not sure how to go about doing this (yes, I do know how to edit photos in photoshop, no problems/questions there) but how do I import the newly-edited files into Premiere so they would play like a movie so I can further edit (and insert sound/my own voice files) into the edited movie - like, for example, still photos of a friend's brown dog that was edited in photoshop (like say, if I put a cow's head on this dog and changed both the dog's body/cow's head to bright green) and saved these images in photoshop either as jpeg's or psd's?


                                        Also, these home movies show about say, 1 afternoon's worth of video taken at the friend's house - how do I import this video into photoshop for editing (as in the dog example)?


                                        Exactly how many/what individual files will I have to edit (such as the dog frolicking with the kids) so that the finished video will show nice video sequence of a green cow-dog frolicking with the kids?


                                        What am I supposed to save them as - jpeg's or psd's?


                                        Will I have to merge all layers or save these photos as multiple layer psd's?


                                        Regarding the voice/speech files, I found a piece of free software on google that I d/l (can't think of its title offhand) that lets me type in a sentence or a paragraph, which can be saved as a wav file that I tested already, first in Windows Media Player (my typed-in words are converted into audible speech that plays nicely) and after this I imported the test file (which I originally typed as text and saved as a wav file) into Premiere, this importion was was successful, this test file played nicely, but as of now I'm just learning how to use Premiere by going step by step through the lessons from this Premiere Classroom in a Book (I'm just barely started only on lesson 3 - importing video into Premiere) and I do believe this book does tell you how Premiere handles photoshop files, but how to import them (which I asked above) but I'm not sure what lesson this would be - help, please?


                                        EDIT - this voice/speech software I found is called TextToWav.


                                        I just d/l MPEG Streamclip.

                                        • 18. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                          John T Smith Legend

                                          >home movies (videos) saved as .VOB files on DVD's


                                          Go back and re-read what I posted on May 7


                                          Have you tested to see if PPro2 will directly import the VOB files?

                                          • 19. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                            the_wine_snob Legend

                                            Do you have Photoshop-Extended (I thought that was not introduced, until PS CS3, and is an expanded version of Photoshop)?


                                            With PS-Extended, if you have one of a very limited type/CODEC Video, you CAN Import that. The limitations are basically DV-AVI and MOV with a limited set of CODEC's, such as Animation.


                                            If you do not have PS-Extended, and have PS before about CS 5, you should be able to Import a FLM (Film Strip) into it, to edit Frame by Frame. You will need to Import your VOB (an MPEG-2, inside the VOB container) into PrPro, or will need to rip the MPEG-2 from the VOB (many software programs can rip the MPEG-2), Import that MPEG-2, and then Export as a Filmstrip. Note: your computer will need to be stout to handle a Filmstrip w/ much Duration, as you are Opening many, many Images (one for each Frame) in PS.


                                            Good luck,



                                            • 20. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                              angelalien548 Newcomer

                                              I have PS CS2. I'd rather stick with the CS2 family of Adobe products (PS, Premiere Pro, After Effects v7), b/c After Effects v7 is menioned in the Premiere Pro v2 Classroom in a Book that I've been working with, so I'm not sure if I have the extended version of PS CS2 or not. I'd like to import (gee, I think you might have lost me here, I'm thoroughtly confused now) but what I think I understand is, I'll need software to rip the MPEG-2 from a VOB file, and then import this into - not sure if I have to import this ripped-out MPEG-2 file into PS or PPro at this point, I think I understand I'll have to import this MPEG-2 into PS - am I correct about this?


                                              but anyway, I'd like to do it this way:


                                              I'd take only a single VOB file and rip the MPEG-2 from it to import into PS, ok, so how many images would I be opening?


                                              If this ripped-out MPEG-2 contains footage/sequences that I do not want, such as an accidental sequence of the dog throwing up in front of the picnickers at the friend's house that happened unexpectedly, is it possible to get rid of that entire sequence, how do I do it? 


                                              again, not sure if I have to cut out this sequence in PS or PPro - which do I use, and how do I do it?


                                              After the dog throwing up sequence is cut out, I'd have to join the 2 sequences/footage showing say, a birthday party indoors at the friend's house? 


                                              To join the edited dog (green cow-dog) footage with the birthday party sequence, which program do I use - PPro or PS?


                                              How to I export the newly-edited green cow-dog PS images as a filmstrip in PS CS2, and in what format so PPro v2 will accept it?


                                              EDIT - John, I re-read your May 7 post, and like I said last night, I already d/l MPEG streamclip, so now I'm going to install this in my laptop (a Dell M1530). Also, I'm no longer running my Abobe programs (PS CS2, PPro v2, After Effects v7) in an XP virtual machine (PPro ran slow as molasses in this VM), I'm now running them natively in XP, and all of these programs now run just fine.


                                              This is the computer (a Dell M1530 laptop) that I'm running PS CS2, PPro v2, and After Effects v7 on natively. Specs are: Core Duo CPU @ 2 GHz, 300 GB HDD (~70 GB used space, remaining space is free space), 256 MB NVidia 8500M video card, 4 GB RAM, OS - Win XP Home_sp3 (32-bit), is this laptop a robust/stout PC for opening many, many images from the MPEG-2 file in PS CS2 for editing?

                                              • 21. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                John T Smith Legend

                                                >single VOB file and rip the MPEG-2 from it to import into PS, ok, so how many images would I be opening?


                                                Null question... VOB/MPG are movie files, not picture files... you will not be opening images, you will be importing a movie file


                                                Have you tried to import a VOB into PPro2 to see if it will work? (I know that later versions will directly import VOB, I no longer have v2 so don't know if it will import and use a VOB)


                                                If v2 will not import/open a VOB, go back to what I wrote on May 7 to re-read what you should convert to for editing... which is DV AVI Type II with 48KHz 16-bit Audio, not MPG


                                                >cut out this sequence in PS or PPro - which do I use, and how do I do it?


                                                You use PPro to edit a video... which will be described in the book you have


                                                >opening many, many images from the MPEG-2 file in PS CS2 for editing?


                                                A video file does consist of X number of images per second, but PPro does not really treat a video file as separate images

                                                • 22. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                  the_wine_snob Legend

                                                  Checking the dusty Adobe Archive of Ancient Software, and found that Photoshop CS 3 was the first version to offer an Extended version, just as I thought. With CS 2, you do not have the ability to Open Video files directly, and only FilmStrip files, when one Exports the Timeline as a FilmStrip.


                                                  I'd take only a single VOB file and rip the MPEG-2 from it to import into PS, ok, so how many images would I be opening?


                                                  This depends. What is the Duration of the Video in seconds (d)? What is the FPS of the Video (f)? The answer will be d x f = number of Frames, or Still Images.


                                                  Note: the FilmStrip option was dropped in PrPro, a version, or two back, but was still available in PrPro 2.0. Also, PS has dropped FilmStrip support, IIRC, and maybe with the CS 5 version. Earlier versions of the programs should still have it.


                                                  Good luck,



                                                  • 23. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                    the_wine_snob Legend

                                                    John T.,


                                                    If my feeble memory serves me, VOB (only 100% DVD-compatible VOB's) Import was added in the second, or third update for CS 4. Even the initial release of CS 4 did not have it, though it had been added to PrElements 7, which came out at about the same time. PrPro was just slower to implement it.



                                                    • 24. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                      the_wine_snob Legend

                                                      PPro does not really treat a video file as separate images


                                                      To a degree, it can, i.e. Exporting to an Image Sequence (this has probably totally replaced the older FilmStrip option), or in earlier versions, as a FilmStrip.


                                                      Back when, the FilmStrip format was often used to RotoScope footage in Photoshop.


                                                      However, I believe that FilmStrip support has been removed from each program.



                                                      • 25. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                        angelalien548 Newcomer

                                                        Ok, I just installed the MPEG Streamclip, I read the Readme First file, which said to get the Quicktime Alternative v1.8.1 from FileHippo, which I did, but when I installed the QT Alternative, its readme said to make sure I enable the MPEG-2 playback add-ons when I first install QT Alt, so I wanted to put a checkmark in the "enable add-on's" but all of the add-on check boxes were grayed out, and the FAQ's don't say a thing about this issue, so it was impossible for me to put a check mark in all of the QT Alt installer's enable add-on's check boxes  - how to I get the QT Alt installer to let me be able to put a checkmark in all of its "enable add-on's/extra plug-in's"? 


                                                        EDIT - Forgot to tell you guys that when I first installed QT Alt, it made me install the Media Player Classic, and I think this is why the installer's extended plug-in's were not even there in the install menu/their checkboxes grayed out.


                                                        Actually, before I installed the QT Alt, I read its Readme file, but I don't think it told me exactly how to install the program if I only want to install the QT Alt, and not the Media Player Classic - how exacty do (what checkboxes do I enable in its installer) I install it (again the FAQ's say nothing about this) so I get only the QT Alt and not the Media Player Classic instead?


                                                        I have now used the QT Alt's uninstaller to completely remove it from my system so I can install it the correct way so I'd get only the QT Alt (with its plug-in's enabled) and not the Media Player Classic.


                                                        @ John T Smith - Yes, I tried importing a bunch of VOB files into PPro v2 (the other day when I had my laptop with me at a friend's house) all at the same time, got some kind of error, think it said it failed, them I tried using VideoConverter to convert it to AVI, which it did, next, tried to import these into PPro, again it said it failed, this time the error was something about the audio. So I (IIRC, so much on mind) tried importing using the "Video Only) but still got the same audio error. Also the Capture in PPro would not even detect these files, either as VOB's or AVI (these were not DV-AVI's).


                                                        @ Bill Hunt - I found the FilmMachine (PFX) from the Adobe site (here) and just d/l the free version. But I don't have the PS CS2 Classroom in a Book, I just have the Classroom in a Book for PS CS3 (I thought I was going to stick with PS CS3 but found it has a bug in it so I discarded it), so how do I import the Film Strip (Film Machine) into PS CS2?


                                                        Also it says its compatable with PS CS2.


                                                        But what does it mean when the description says it (free actions) creates 6 different (flat & curled) filmstrips using 1 image?


                                                        What is meant by "free actions" vs "commercial actions"? Isn't this the free version vs the commercial version?

                                                        • 26. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                          angelalien548 Newcomer

                                                          Bill Hunt, John Smith, I've noticed that you replied to other people's posts here in this forum except mine, and all of these replies are dated/timed later (after 8:48 PM on May 21th, which was when I finished editing my latest post about PPro, making my final edit) than my latest post of last night. Did you forget about me, or gaven up on me b/c I kept asking too many dumb questions?


                                                          Or am I making a pest of myself here?

                                                          • 27. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                            John T Smith Legend

                                                            Back on May 7 I said... "I have NOT used the products below, I only forward due to other mentions"


                                                            I do not edit VOB files... I do not convert VOB files... I do not use MPEG Streamclip... I said nothing because I have nothing to say


                                                            If you can't get MPEG Streamclip to work, I suggest clicking some of the other links I posted on May 7 to find a different product


                                                            I know from past messages (not to speak for Bill) that he uses a product that I THINK is named "Digital Media Converter" which is one of the links I provided before


                                                            I really have no other information on converting a VOB or MPG to DV AVI Type 2 with 48KHz 16-bit Audio to be able to edit

                                                            • 28. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                              John T Smith Legend

                                                              ADDED http://www.deskshare.com/media-converter.aspx is the current link for Digital Media Converter... I am "fairly" sure this is what Bill uses... there is a trial, so give it a test

                                                              • 29. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                                angelalien548 Newcomer

                                                                May I please tell you guys (John Smith, Bill Hunt, et al) that after I posted my concerns about not having my latest post answered, I went to a friend's house with my laptop (the Dell M1530) and by trial and error, I successfully installed the plug-in components required by QT Alt 1.8.1 (had to tell the installer to uninstall my QuickTime first), after this all of these grayed out options for QT Alt's extended components were now fully active, I was able put a checkmark in all of the boxes, let the QT Alt install, after this I then used (trial and error) MPEG Streamclip to convert the .VOB file to .AVI, went into PPro, File > Capture (but might have used Import), located the newly-converted .AVI, and the (my home movie video clip from one of my DVD's) imported successfully, I tested it in the Source Monitor to see if it would play (it did - successfully) with its full sound/voices, IIRC. It imported in the Classroom in a book's (which I chose) lesson 3 project as a movie rather than a sequence, I did not have to tinker with any import settings, but it imported from the output folder into PPro with no hitches at all.


                                                                Then I tested it again by saving the project as a lesson 3 pproj, giving it my own meaningful, personal name at the same time, it saved successfully, next I exited PPro, waited a few seconds, then started up PPro again, and at the main menu, selected Open Project, located my own unique lesson 3 project > ok, and PPro opened up, with its editing interface (as before, with this newly-converted .AVI file in the project menu) as a movie file, again I tested it by clicking the forward arrow below the Source Monitor, my clip played just as nicely as it did after I first converted and imported it.


                                                                Anyway, I jotted how I solved the problem of how to import my formerly VOB's into PPro in the Classroom in a Book, first, how I did it, next, I jotted down the page number with my solution in the first couple of pages of the book so I'd know what to do the next time I want to import a VOB file.

                                                                • 30. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                                  John T Smith Legend

                                                                  Great... TWO Greats!


                                                                  1st that you figured out how to get everything working


                                                                  2nd and maybe even MORE important... you made notes!!!


                                                                  If I had a quarter for everytime someone posted a message with something like "I did this once but can't remember how, could someone please tell me what I forgot?" I could have retired a year ago, not 3.5 months ago


                                                                  Now, just keep working through the lessons in the book... with your files so the work means more... and you are on your way to a finished project

                                                                  • 31. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                                    angelalien548 Newcomer

                                                                    Thanks, John.


                                                                    Anyway, last week or so I got After Effects v7 Studio Techniques, it came today, I like it, going to keep it, and just now I bought the Creative After Effects v7 by Angie Taylor, but discussion of the contents and working with them would belong in another forum here. Since I still don't know my way around this site, how do I get to the After Effects v7 discussion forum in case I need help with my After Effects?


                                                                    Anyway, I posted the specs of my Dell M1530 laptop here durung my discussions about PPro here with you guys, asking if my laptop is a robust, stout computer, and I never got this question answered, so - could someone here please re-read my specs for my M1530 and answer my question?


                                                                    Also, could you recommend me a book that teaches you how to use Adobe Photoshop CS2, Premiere Pro 2, and After Effects 7 regarding using them to build a movie by using say, the footage of the afternoon at a friend's house (which I mentioned before in this discussion) with the dog, the birthday party, and incorporating my digital photos (still photos of a door's wood grain texture, a bush in friend's yard, props, such as a certian object, such as my favorate childhood toy, kept as a souvenor from our store room by inserting this into the PPro/PS project, etc) to give someone in the finished movie a skin texture and color of the door's wood texture and to change that person's hair from normal human hair into hair that closely resembles the bush (both in texture and color) b/c say that person is excited about the planned project and wants to be the monster/alien creature that came from No Where Land and was invited to the picnic?


                                                                    To date I now have (at home)


                                                                    Premiere Pro 2 classroom in a book,

                                                                    After Effects 7 Studio Techniques,

                                                                    Photoshop CS3 classroom in a book,

                                                                    Photoshop CS Trickery and FX by Stephen Burns,

                                                                    Photoshop cosmetic surgery by Barry Jackson


                                                                    books on order


                                                                    Creative After Effects 7,

                                                                    After Effects 7 Classroom in a book,

                                                                    Film Direction Fundamentals 3rd edition by Nicholas Proferes  (I won't use this with real people (family, friends) but with the files (after they're all edited using PS and AE, to write the finished movie's script/screenplay, etc, to "direct" the movie on paper (computer) instead of live people/sets).


                                                                    All of these books, I made sure that the CD's/DVD's were included when I ordered them.


                                                                    Another piece of software I have is Bryce 5.5 (free version that is stored on a disc in my office, its not on my laptop since I'm not using it at the moment), and a bryce book:


                                                                    Real World Bryce 4 by Susan A. Kitchens and Victor Gavenda, which was recommended to me by the Bryce users from the Daz 3D community about 5 years ago.


                                                                    Would you guys say I have everything I need to create this finished (edited) home movie as I've explained so far?


                                                                    Will I need other books?

                                                                    • 32. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                                      John T Smith Legend

                                                                      Start at http://forums.adobe.com/index.jspa and use the drop down window to select forums


                                                                      >Dell M1530 with a Core Duo processor @ 2 GHz, 256 MB Nvidia 8500M video card, 4 GB max RAM, a 300 GB HDD, and runs XP (32-bit) natively - how do you guys think premiere will run in this computer?


                                                                      For SD video, you will be able to "slowly" do editing... until your one hard drive fills up


                                                                      I'm not really the person to say much about using a laptop, since I built my desktop computer, but you will "someday, maybe soon" need a 2nd hard drive dedicated to video files


                                                                      Trying to use only ONE Hard Drive for Video Editing


                                                                      You are a music conductor, with a baton that you use to point to various parts of the orchestra... this is like Windows pointing to various parts of the hard drive to do Windows housekeeping or to load program segments for various functions


                                                                      Now, at the same time and with the same hand... while still using the baton to conduct the orchestra... pick up a bow and play a fiddle... this would be doing something with your video file at the same time as all the other work


                                                                      You as a person cannot do both at the same time with the same hand


                                                                      A computer is a LITTLE better, in that it can switch from one kind of task to another very quickly... but not quickly enough for EASY video editing


                                                                      You need AT LEAST two hard drives (separate drives, never a partition http://forums.adobe.com/thread/650708 for more) with Windows (or Mac OS) and software on your boot drive, and video files on a 2nd drive so the boot drive is not slowed down by trying to do everything


                                                                      Partition = Crash http://forums.adobe.com/thread/957286


                                                                      I find that the three drives I use work very well for me, for editing AVCHD video... some people use a 4th drive, so video INPUT files are on drive three and all OUTPUT files are on drive four... I only bought a mid-tower case instead of a full tower case (my bad... but had to fit in the space available on my office desk!) so I use the three drives that will fit


                                                                      Depending on your exact hardware (motherboard brand & model AND USB2 enclosure brand & model AND external hard drive brand & model) AND the type of video file, you may... or may NOT... be able to use an external USB2 hard drive for SD (Standard Definition) video editing


                                                                      Steve Grisetti in the Premiere Elements forum http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856208 and Jim Simon in the Premiere Pro forum http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856433 use USB externals for editing


                                                                      A USB3 hard drive connected to a motherboard with USB3 is supposed to be fast enough for video editing (I don't have such, so don't know) but eSata DOES have a fast enough data transfer for video editing... I have not used the eSata Dock below... for reference only, YMMV and all the usual disclaimers


                                                                      http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-BlacX-eSATA-Docking-Station/dp/B001A4HAFS/ref=cm_cmu_pg_ t

                                                                      • 33. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                                        angelalien548 Newcomer

                                                                        To date, I currently have 2 external HD's, a 2005 Iogear 500 GB EHD, and a recently bought (only a few months ago) Seagate USB 2/USB 3 1 TB EHD, my laptop has 3 USB ports (one is used for the USB optical mouse), my M1530 has a Dell (as I suspected since I knew that Dell computers, whether desktops or laptops, use Dell components) motherboard, Dell 0XR148. I have some files on this new Seagate EHD, I could transfer them to the Iogear EHD and then use the Seagate EHD for video editing, can't I?


                                                                        Here's the update on my laptop's video card: Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT. Previously (before d/l PC wizard & using it to scan my laptop's hardware) I thought I had a Nvidia 8500M vid card, but I was mistaken, don't know whether my laptop's USB ports are USB 2 or USB 3, but I bought it last year on ebay, and it came with Windows Vista installed, so I took out the original HDD, and put in a newly-bought HDD that came from Newegg, which I did a clean install of XP Home_sp3 on. This laptop does not the Optimus technology on its video card.


                                                                        If a EHD gets corrupted, can it be fixed (I think it can - by reformatting)?


                                                                        If I use this Seagate 1 TB EHD (USB) in my laptop for video editing on the go (this EHD is small in physical dimensions, and it is very lightweight), would I be in danger of getting Delayed Write/Transfer errors?


                                                                        EDIT - Just wanted to tell you guys that I now have these 2 books on otder as of now:


                                                                        Creative After Effects 7: Workflow  Techniques for  Animation, Visual Effects and Motion Graphics by Angie Taylor,


                                                                        Photoshop for digital video: Creative solutions for professional results by Mike Gondek, Archie Cocke. This book is based on PS CS.


                                                                        I think I now have everything I'll need for creating this video that I mentioned (green cow-dog at friend's house). I hope I'm correct about this and do not have to get any more books/software (since I owe Mom a small fortune from all this buying I was doing so far)?


                                                                        Edit 2 - Now I'm ready to use Premiere's "cutting floor" to take out certain parts of this video that I've imported into PPro 2, and save it in such a way that I'd be able to open the sequence/video in PS CS2 so I can edit out certain parts and juxtaposition parts of other  (stil) images from my digital photos into the individual frames, and then export the newly-edited sequence for opening/working with it either in After Effects 7, PPro, and/or both - but exactly what do I do (steps, please)?

                                                                        • 34. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?
                                                                          angelalien548 Newcomer

                                                                          I found a user who wanted to spend $1200 for a laptop for video editing here in these forums at this site, the latest reply told him to get a top of the line used laptop of a year or 2 ago, and referred him to a bunch of Dell laptops (mostly Precisions/Latitudes) that looked (I only checked out the first ebay entry) on ebay that were running Windows 7. Also I found among thee ebay entries caddies for multiple HDD, and these caddies are very cheap (about $10 - $12) for holding 2 HDD's, so I'm going to look on best buy for a 4 HDD caddy for laptops.


                                                                          EDIT - these HDD caddies listed on Best Buy's website didn't help much, they only held 1 HDD, and are screw-mounted. Well (sigh) I guess it's back to these external HDD questions I asked in my preceiding post?


                                                                          So, I'm not sure if my Dell M1530 - actually it's a Dell XPS M1530, it has USB 2.0, is top of the line for the day when PS CS2, PPro 2, and After Efffects 7 were first released or not (though I hope so)?


                                                                          My Seagate 1 TB EHD is a USB 2 and 3, it's used for sharing movies, audio, photos, etc - so do you think it would be fast enough (its self-powered, too) for video editing if connected by USB 2 to the Dell M1530?